Black Spirituality Religion : Let The Church Say Amen

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  1. Fine1952

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    I'm still searching...yet this 'might' be the actual person whose name is was decreed to forever be in the mouths of men because he was thus -- A Pious Hu(e)man Being.

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    p. 650-51 Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 12 by James Hastings
    "...It would thus seem that the sages of the past who were subsequently exalted to divine honours were thought of as incarnations of the god Thoth, somewhat in the same way as was indicated in a counterpart to this deitifed sage of old is met with in Theban temples on the left bank of the Nile dating from the Graeco-Roman period, and also in funerary papyri of the same era. This is the famous Amen-hotp, the son of Hapu, and a native of arthribis, who had won renown by a long and honorable career as a minister of the Amenophis III..."

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    Why We Say Amen
    by Brittney M. Walker | OW Staff Writer


    “And it is in your name we pray, Amen.” Sounds familiar, right? That is the common ending of a prayer in many religious traditions. Many people even use the word “amen” to agree with the preacher, or even in a casual conversation: “Can I get an ‘Amen?’” a preacher might say, or some girlfriends may use it in a conversation and say, “Girl, I know that’s right. Amen to that.” It has been understood the word has Hebrew origins, meaning, “so be it.” However, according to the research conducted by Jahi Issa, Ph.D. and California State University Dominguez Hills Africana Studies professor Salim Faraji, Ph.D., contributors to O. Kwame Osei’s “The Origin of the Word Amen: Ancient Knowledge the Bible has Never Told,” the word “amen” has Hebrew origins, meaning, “so be it.”


    Issa and Faraji write that amen was an entity, one of the four qualities of Nun, primordial matter or often referred to as the watery chaos in which creation formed. Amen and the feminine half Amenet were considered a pair of gods, who stood independently from Nun. Amen was highly regarded among royalty, and the crowns of kings were adorned with his symbol—a ram. Other names in which he is commonly known by include Amen-Ra and Amon. He is also part of the divine triad: Amen, Mut, and Khonsu, the Father-Mother-Child trinity. Amen means that which is hidden or cannot be seen.


    Several kings and queens of ancient Kemet were named in the divinity’s honor, attaching Amen to their own names. For example, Amenhotep, Amenemhet, Taneyidamani, Tuntunkamen, Amanitore, Amanishekhto, and several more include Amen in their names. Even in current traditions, Amen or some form of his name is used in names across the African Diaspora.


    So how did Amen end up in other religious traditions? Let us take a look at the Greek invasion of Egypt. In Origin of the Word Amen, the authors noted that with Alexander “the Great’s” take over of Egypt, he established the city of Alexandria, where he took over the papyrus scrolls that held the information and history of civilization, including Kemetic history, medicine, geometry, mathematics, music, philosophy, and cosmology.

    That may explain why the shared Jewish and Christian stories of the Bible are nearly identical to the ancient scrolls of Kemetic theological philosophies and traditions. Issa and Faraji also point out the incontrovertible Egyptian creation story is told in Genesis.

    Throughout the Old Testament scriptures, the presence of Amen is compelling.

    “(Ku%$#%!e king) Piankhi’s two sons and successors Shabataka and Taharqa, both of which are mentioned in the Old Testament books of II Chronicles (12:2-9) and II Kings (19:9) as rulers and defenders of the southern kingdom of Judah against Assyrian aggression, were fervent devotees and warriors of the Amen like their father before them. These two kings and priest-generals … made a lasting and favorable impression on the kingdom of Judah through their adoration and service to the Amen,” Issa and Faraji write.

    According to Biblical Old Testament writings, the Hebrews were heavily influenced by ancient Kemetic religious traditions. Even in the Greek New Testament writings, the influence of Amen is also prevalent.
    Issa and Faraji emphasize that Amen was regarded as a universal God in which anyone could find respect and relevance.

    Revelation 3:14 reads, “And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; these things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God.”


    “Elsewhere in the New Testament the Amen is appealed to as a name by which an oath is confirmed or a truth is declared,” the scholars write. “… Jesus prefaces his words with the phrase rendered in Greek ‘Amen, Amen.’ The English translation of this phrase varies, depending upon the version of the Bible.

    The New King James Version translates the phrase ‘verily, verily,’ … What is clear from the manner in which Amen is utilized in these passages is that the name itself represents a divine sanction of any thought, words, and actions declared by the truth of Amen. In other words, Jesus is saying ‘By the name of Amen’ I say these things, or ‘I swear according to the name of Amen’ that these things are true.” So the next time you say “Amen,” know you are recognizing the truth in the universal, Kemetic God Amen.
     
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    Amun was one of the eight ancient Egyptian gods who formed the Ogdoad of Hermopolis. He was the god of the air and his consort was Ament (Amaunet). However, during the Twelfth dynasty (Middle Kingdom) Amun was adopted in Thebes as the King of the gods with Mut as his consort. Amun and Mut had one child, the moon god Khonsu. He was promoted to national god by Ahmose I, the first pharaoh of the New Kingdom because the king believed that Amun had helped him drive the Hyksos from Egypt. He was also adopted into the Ennead of Heliopolis when he merged with the ancient sun god (Ra) to become Amun-Ra.
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    It is possible that there were once two separate gods with the same name, but equally likely that Amun of Heliopolis merely took on the attributes of the Theban god Montu (Montju) when he replaced him as the principle god of the nome in the later period. His name is generally translated as "the hidden one" or "the secret one" and it was thought that he created himself and then created everything else while remaining distanced and separate from the world. In that sense he was the original inscrutable and indivisible creator. When he merged with Ra he became both a visible and invisible deity. This duality (the hidden god and the visible sun) appealed to the Egyptian concept of balance and duality leading to an association between Amun-Ra and Ma´at. Amun was also identified with Montu (who he pretty much absorbed) and the hybrid gods Amun-Ra-Atum, Amun-Re-Montu, Amun-Re-Horakhty and Amun-Min.

    ....However, the god could also reveal his will through the oracles, who were in the control of the priests and they had been granted so much land that they even rivalled the power of the Pharaoh. Amenhotep III instituted some reforms when he became concerned that the Theban clergy had become too powerful, but his son (Akhenaten) went one further and actually replaced Amun with the Aten and constructed a new capital city named Akhetaten. However, the experiment was short-lived and both Amen and Thebes were reinstated under the rule of Tutankhamun.
    The worship of Amun even spread into neighbouring countries, particularly Nubia. By the Twenty-fifth dynasty Amen-Ra was the principle god of the Kingdom of Napata (Nubia) who believed he came from Gebel Barkal (in northern Sudan) and the Greeks considered him to be the equivalent of Zeus.....


     
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    Amen was, in fact--- a breathing, living human being.

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    p. 650-51 Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 12 by James Hastings
    "...It would thus seem that the sages of the past who were subsequently exalted to divine honours were thought of as incarnations of the god Thoth, somewhat in the same way as was indicated in a counterpart to this deitifed sage of old is met with in Theban temples on the left bank of the Nile dating from the Graeco-Roman period, and also in funerary papyri of the same era. This is the famous Amen-hotp, the son of Hapu, and a native of arthribis, who had won renown by a long and honorable career as a minister of the Amenophis III..."

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    The word “Amen” has its origin in Ethiopia which came before Ancient Egypt as does ‘all’ religious spirituality. This means that the three major hybrid religions (eg. Christianity, Islam and Judaism) are all offshoots of this divine construct from Kush/Cush/Ethiopia. It is also interesting to note that there was a man named Amenhotep, the Son of Hapu who was the deitified sage who gained renowned favor by establishing a lengthy career as spiritual minister to Amenophis III -- page 651, Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics by James Hastings. This word “Amen” and this man “Amenhotep” are considered ‘pagan’ by the Roman standard as it was this pseudo-group that coined the word as “-- village dweller --” page 117. “The Secret Source: The Law of Attraction Is One of Seven Ancient Hermetic Laws: Here Are the Other Six“ by Maja D‘aoust and Adam Parfrey ~ in reference to the Ancient Egyptians. The word pagan is not to be confused with the word “heathen” which has a split meaning and therefore applies to: 1. Gypsies in Western Europe during past centuries -- which regards that they were non-Christians out of Egypt who were considered pitiful, black, miserable as they camped before the town -- page 465 “Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics, Part 12 by James Hastings. 2. People who were admittedly Christian by religion “…The other similar instance is that afforded by the Staats-Archiv of Basel, in which it is recorded that on 13th June 1423 a payment of one gulden was made ‘to two heathens [swein keyden] who had become Christians. There is practically no doubt that in all these instances at Bern in 1419, at Basel in 1423 and at Arahem in 1429 -- the people denominated “heathen“ were Gypsies..." -- page 465-466, Ibid. Another Reference Source -- http://www.****************/forum/spirituality-connect-your-center/31109-amen-amun-amen-ra.html
     
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    Yes the goddess/god Amen. The hidden one that is unseen but does exisit ! The orchestrator/ hidden intelligence that is responsible for all creations of life seen and unseen. The priest of amen lost there power. With the focus being changed to the atom or aten the seen manifestation of amen. We all have this component of the cosmonology within us providing animation life and purpose to our existence. Hetep
     
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    You speak esoterically I speak plainly w/sources-references
     
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    My bad I was speaking more to the divine intelligence ur speaking to an actual per son whom has bore the title. In my limited undestanding I know there were several to have bore the title.especially amongst the priest hood. Before ankh en ton changed the focus to the atom/aten/aton
     
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    not a problem.

    Ancient Egyptians were "right" sided thinkers. They knew the answer to the question (eg. so to speak) and then broke the parts down into detailed pieces. Magnificient culture!! Where it not for the many spiritual concepts left by them the so-Called modern world would be walking around on its non=opposible thumbs because there would be no Christianity -- no Islam -- no Judaism. All that these hybrid religions possess is due totally to these awesome people...
     
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    2 Cor. 1:

    [20] For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.



    Rev.3

    [14] And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;
     
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    Are you aware that the word Amen and the Man Amen pre-date the "incredible" biblical" text?

     
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