Black Sports : LEBRON *MICHAEL*KOBE - CAREERS IN PERSPECTIVE...

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  1. Isaiah

    Isaiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    At comparitive stages in their careers, Lebron is now beyond where Michael was at age 21, and Kobe Bryant is not even in the conversation... What Lebron is doing in the Detroit series is akin to Michael taking the Bulls past the Celtics in what would've been his rookie campaign... Only Michael was still in college at North Carolina...

    Additionally, Lebron's just got a much better basketball head on his shoulders than Michael or Kobe at this stage in their development... He understands intuitively what both Michael and Kobe had to be taught by Phil Jackson, which is to respect and accept their teammates, and make them better teammates... Actually, as per his playoff accomplishments, Magic is probably a better comparison, because Magic showed he could be the man on the biggest stage when he was even younger than Lebron, at age 20... What gives Lebron a slight edge on Magic is his athleticism...

    Which brings me to a statement Bill Parcells once made about the best tight ends playing power forward in the NBA... Antonio Gates is a great example of that, but how many of remember reading that Lebron was an all-state receiver while in high school??? It brings to mind that Ohio State receiver, Santonio Holmes who was drafted in the first round by the World Champion Pittsburgh Steelers, was a contemporary and peer of Lebron in Highschool... When I see this kid driving to the basket, or going coast-to-coast on breakways and fast breaks, he reminds me of that all-state receiver he must've been, and I know that must strike fear in a lot of guys in the NBA...

    Michael had guys in fear mentally, but Lebron has them in fear mentally and physically... Who in the NBA is really equipped to handle this guy at his position in THE ASSOCIATION??? What are you guys thoughts on this???


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  2. Coach707

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    Jebron is like no other the NBA has ever seen, or probably will see again for a long time. This guy is 6'11' with the moves of a 6'6 guard. If he can stay healthy I think that he has an opportunity to be the NBA's most dominant scoring threat for the next decade.


    What suprises me about these pro athletes is how they place themselves in a contradicting situation. They go out and hire mega-sports agents who are all about getting them the biggest pay-day ever, and then they get upset when their teams suffer. If a star does not allow his franchise to use the salary cap to HIS advantage by giving them a way to pay other valuable role players around him it would make them a much more dominant player in the end. Kevin Garnett is one player that comes to mind. I hope Mr. James looks at examples such as Mr. Garnett and realize that if he want to maximize his career he will need those big time role players in Cleveland. True leadership is not and should not be doing the most work and being solely comphensated or recognized for it, it is in realizing that the true value of the work is in the TEAM effort. That also includes TEAM comphensation.
     
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    Brother, remember a short while back when folks were clowning me in some threads when I said he was a more likely MVP candidate than Kobe?

    Now King James is in a position getting ready to knock out the Pistons...and I'm cheering him on!...lol!!

    "Who in the NBA is really equipped to handle this guy at his position in THE ASSOCIATION?"

    NO ONE because he easily plays THREE positions...He has more size than any other point guard and none can stop him from going to the hole. he is bigger than most two guards and none can handle him one-on-one again because of his size and quickness which often requires double and triple teaming. Perhaps there are some small forwards that can give him fits who also are scorers and can go to the hole such as Dirk Nowitzki, Shawn Marion and Tayshaun Prince, but the Cav/Piston series is proving that even though Tayshaun is one of the league's best defenders LeBron is just too much to handle.

    Again, I make the comparison to not Michael Jordan, but Elgin Baylor. Why? Because Jordan was basically a two guard that ran off a lot of screens and was teamed with great defenders, scorers or rebounders such as Pippen, Rodman, Horace grant, Charles Oakley, and Bill Cartwright, but like Elgin, LeBorn is a scorer AND a strong Offensive rebounder. And his career and playoff numbers will approximate Baylor's if not exceed them in those TWO categories...not to mention assists..and blocks.
     
  4. Isaiah

    Isaiah Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Oh, yeah, I thought Lebron was the MVP as well, because look at what he had to work with? He has single-handedly CARRIED that ballclub - though I must commend Cav's head coach, Mike Brown and his staff, for some masterful coaching... Steve Nash seems to have all-stars coming out of his ears in Phoenix... Stoudamire goes down, and Diaw is there to replace him... Kurt Thomas went down, and Tim Thomas came in to replace him... Joe Johnson left town, and Raja Bell and Barbosa came to the rescue... Cleveland's front office clearly has not provided the kind of personnel for Lebron that Nash had... Niether has it provided the personnel that Nowitzki had in Dallas, but Lebron finished a distant third in the MVP balloting... Ridiculous...

    Brother O, Lebron is so clearly a one of a kind player that he will wipe out all comparisons to him once he is done - particularly is he is provided with the personnel to fully exploit his talents... Cleveland just might own the Larry O'brien trophy in the years to come... I wish the guy coulda actually played in the '80's so that we could see him up against the greatest players of the era... That woulda been something, wouldn't it...

    Coach, you are right, but what do you do, turn down the $25-million per year contract Garnett was tendered 7 or 8 years ago??? It would be terrible if you turned down the money for the long-term goal of winning a championship that no team is guaranteed, and then you hurt yourself so that your value plummets... You must get all you can while you can, Coach, as selfish as that might sound... Athletic careers are short and hopefully sweet as far as the cash is concerned... Look at what happened to L.J.(Larry Johnson), or even Zo Mourning... They both got kidney ailments using pain killers, and had to get out of the game... Zo required a transplant, and is back playing again, but he is not himself... You got to get yours in that world, and then you get older, and you go to San Antonio or Detroit as a hired gun, when you no longer need the dough...(smile!)



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    James will be a name to respect for years he truely have carried the CAVS
    and should have been named the MVP he is very smart on the court and a great
    floor leader that's unselfish .....
     
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    Labron Is a one of a kind playes but unlike Mike he can't create his shot off the dribble like Mike or kobie can. What labron can do is hit the basket like a NFL FullBack and is almost unstopable when he goes to the basket hard. He has become a better shooter and as we all see is a smart young man.

    But let's not forget JORDAN and what the other players would say "He Is So Strong" No Mike is not built like King james, heck nobody is that plays the positions he plays. I think he has steped up aginst the Pistons who looked like the first 2 games that they would walk away with a clean sweep of the Cav's
    Well The Cav's had something to say about that along with their young leader LaBron.

    But let's not give Mr. James the Jordan mantle just yet he still has alot to do before he can clain that no matter what the League or Nike has to say about that.

    Kobie had my vote for MVP not just because what he had to do to get his team into the playoffs and his playoff performance or his leading the league in scoreing and being on the 1st team Defense.He Pissed me off the last game where he said I don't care in the 4th Quarter. And can someone please tell me what nash did to get that award?? He is on a good team with good players.. they should have made the playoffs. Both labron and Kobie had to work harder with less quality players.
     
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    Lebron is 6 feet 8 inches and there is more to being a good player than scoring a lot of points. Jordan was more than just that. Since Lebron is only a year older than me I'm not going to say he doesn't possess great leadership qualities like Jordan, but it's kind of early to compare the two.
     
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    i THINK KING JAMES NEEDS A BIGGER STAE FOR HIS EXCELLENCE, LIKE OH SAY NEW YORK CITY! AT FIRST I VOTED KOBE FOR MVP, BUT AFTER THE PISTONS SERIES ID VOTE LEBRON. AGAIN I THINK MVP SHOULD BE VOTED ON AFTER THE PLAYOFFS.

    I WOULD PUT KOBE I THE EQUATION, HE HAS THREE RINGS WHICH LEBRON DOES NOT, HE SCORED 82 POINTS THE SECOND HIGHEST TOTAL POINTS IN A GAME EVER, KOE IS A ETTER ALL AROUND PLAYER THAN JAMES RIGHT NOW. iF I COULD PICK ID PICK LEBRON OVER ALL.
     
  9. Isaiah

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    Lebron can"t create his own shot???? What games are you watching, brother Python??? Just because he's a big cat has nothing to do with whether he can or cannot create his own shot... The ability to create shots for his teammates his why he has MORE assists than Jordan ever had in a season... They guy is a point forward, and just like any point GAURD, he can create because he has a great handle, and sees the floor a lot better than Jordan, whose focus was always on the basket...

    As for his leadership, he is 21 years old, playing with established veterans like, Eric Snow, Donyell Marshall, Damon Jones, and Larry Hughes... He will grow into the role of leader as he gets older, and more established... Jordan was no leader until much later in his career, and that is because when he came in he had a Reggie Theus and an Orlando Woolridge, and others there... He wasn't going to come in all green and start bossing these grown men around... He'd a gotten his behind beat, and been sent home... LeBron will establish himself with the years...


    Where Jordan is miles ahead of him is DEFENSE... Lebron, in fact, may NEVER become the defender Jordan was from the start... Jordan was a defensive stopper when he was at North Carolina, so when he came in the league, that was a strong suit for him... Wish I could say LeBron will become this... I cannot, but we will see in the years to come...


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