Discussion in 'Black Men - Fathers - Brothers - Sons' started by Alarm Clock, Sep 2, 2013.
First off, the provincialism of NYers is a bit wearying. They're almost as boring as Texans with their incessant bragging. I say this only because I got a jolt when the brutha started off by talking about Harlem as if it had anything to do with either the Black Pullman Porter's union or the 1963 March on Washington. **sigh**
At any rate, while I admire the man, I feel the video is skewed in it's admiration. While A. Philip Randolph did start up the Black Pullman Porter's Union, and did THREATEN.... but never did so! ....to march on Washington during FDR's administration, his influence on Dr. King, I feel, is overplayed... and to make him the architect of the 1964 March on Washington is just WRONG! Bayard Rustin was the architect of that march and there is NO denying it.
Nonetheless, God blessed us when He sent us A. Phillip Randolph.
The video was about A. Phillip Randolph particularly. He had a strong presence in NYC. It's not provincialism. A. Phillip Randolph, among other things, ran for New York State Comptroller and Secretary of New York State in the early 1920s. He was active in New York as the narrator said.
1963 March, but yes there is denying of Rustin being Architect. Rustin was the Organizer. A. Phillip Randolph was the Architect.
We travel back in time to Ebony's November 1963 issue:
One caption reads:
Father of March: Asa Phillip Randolph, who conceived the idea of a March on Washington and became director of the 1963 project, leads surging wave. . . ..
Another caption reads:
Chief of staff of mammoth operation Bayard Rustin . . .. Rustin organized march . . .. He is given credit for solving logistical problems . . ..
In the article we see the story more clearly:
They named Randolph director [ . . . ] He chose as his deputy director Bayard Rustin.As to the real story Malcolm X put it in his autobiography. The March was the brainchild of Randolph but it was co-opted by Whites and traducers of the race hence Rustin. Today, Homosexuals are making Rustin a big story and many of our Bright are falling for it.
It was Randolph idea 1st. Thus, he gets the credit
I made my obsveration - I'm tired of the provincialism.
Give us the rest of the article. You know, the part that says Rustin was his subordinate.
So the Father was the architect and the one who organized the WHOLE SHEBANG just.... there? For the ride, maybe?**sigh**
I don't care about your attempt at deflection. I know you're going to bombard this thread with a thousand posts, so I'm saying it for the first and last time: I wasn't talking to you. I was expessing my opinion. It had nothing to do with you and I'd appreciate it if you'd tag onto someone else's posts and talk about Fathers of the March (an honorary title) who organized a March on Washington in the 1940's THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.... and diss the man who did all the work, made all the appointments, chose and coordinated all the speakers, liaisoned with the city, fire police etc., managed the staff, etc. etc. etc.
You up in one of your hate mods again??
This aint about no march this is about Labor Day!
Hello! Hello anyone home!!!
A. Philip Randolph, labor leader and Harlem journalist, discusses the theatrical scene in Harlem in the 1930s. Randolph, best known as the organizer of the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters, the first successful African American union, had come to Harlem in 1911 so that he could become an actor. In 1917, together with Columbia student Chandler Owen, he began to edit and publish the socialist magazine The Messenger, which combined writing about radicals and union news with literary criticism and other writing by well-known African American intellectuals, including Paul Robeson and Claude McKay.
Come in out of the cold, bruth. It's addling your brains. You don't like my opinion, OR the cold, hard FACTS, cool, but stop trying to front with the low-brow humor. Pull up some links that A. Philip Randolph and NOT Bayard Rustin was architect of the March.
Then come in out of the cold.
Get over your hangups about NYC! or any other historical location Next you will tell us that Garvey's UNIA headquaters was in your city, that the boycott, was not in Montgomery or Birmingham but in your town and that Black Wall street was in your living room and not in Tulsa Oklahoma
Yiou want to say something bout a march you had your time this was posted on Labor Day for Labor day, so find some love in your life before you continue to make others assume you are just looking for a reason to make others miserable!
Do not speak to me in that tone. Even though my opinion may be different from yours - and in this case, oh yea! it is - I am neither your enemy nor are we locked in a life or death struggle.
Please. Use your indoor voice or miss me.
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