Black Spirituality Religion : Krishna and Jesus were names – of same God in different tongues

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  1. dattaswami1

    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Krishna and Jesus were names – of same God in different tongues

    The blind fanatic conservative rigidity – of one’s own religion is
    Leading to communal wars – destroying the peace of society.
    Common sense and simple analysis – are sufficient to know truth.
    Every religious fan says that – his God created this earth.
    Unfortunately there is only – one earth and not many earths.
    Religions are many with different Gods, - but, sorry, one earth only!
    This clearly means that there is – only one God, names differ.
    Then, one God should preach – one syllabus only to the earth.
    Languages may be different, – but subject is one and the same.

    God is impartial Father of all souls – existing on this one earth.
    If you say that Krishna alone is God, – Gita alone is the path,
    Those who followed Krishna only – are liberated, others to hell,
    We fully agree, but one small doubt, - when Krishna came here,
    India was disconnected with – other foreign countries for some time.
    During that time, foreigners, - who died ignorant of Krishna
    Went to hell and fault was not in them – they did not know Krishna
    Due to fault of Krishna only, - if Krishna wished, all countries
    Could have been linked on His – arrival to India simultaneously.

    Having known Krishna, – if the foreigners did not follow Him,
    Their hell is justified, – now Krishna becomes partial to India.
    God is always impartial, – entire earth is His creation only.
    All the souls on the earth – are issues of the same divine Father.
    Partiality is not justified, - if you say India alone has good devotees.
    It is also not true because – Kauravas opposed Him vehemently.
    The only solution is that God came – to all countries simultaneously
    In different names and preached – the same syllabus simultaneously.
    This logic applies to all religions, – When Jesus came to Jerusalem,
    India was disconnected for some time, – in that time some Indians
    Went to hell for not following Jesus, - it was not their fault at all,
    Jesus need not be partial to Jerusalem – containing good devotees
    Only, since He was crucified by – the worst priests in Jerusalem.
    The solution is that same God came – to India and Jerusalem.
    Krishna and Jesus were names – of same God in different tongues.
     
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    Questioner08 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I give u a better solution ... try this

    God is one and He never came on earth in human form ... He's up there , he sent his messengers in the land from time to time to different people and nations to reveal his message and so that people may know Him , but people thought of these messengers as God incarnates ...

    there's only ONE GOD

    He created heavens and the earth and everything in between

    He created me , you n everything else

    He sent Jesus,Krishna,John,Abraham,Moses,Budha,Muhammad ... all

    He is the only one worthy of being worshipped ...
     
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    that makes God impartial and solves problem ...
     
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    Zacharias Banned MEMBER

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    Q - There more than one Allah




    ALLAHUMMA < Arabic >
    3 ; 26 , 5 ; 114 , 8 ; 32 , 10 ; 10 , 39 ; 46 .
    The word ALLAHUMMA < Arabic > Means '' O Allah The Source < Arabic > And Hum '' They '' -- The Eloheem Anunnaqis . '' ALLAHUMMA < Arabic > Is another word that was derived from The Hebrew word ELOHEEM , Meaning These Beings , Or A Group Of Elohs , ALLAHUMAS Or ELOHEEM Are Angels Of El , Messengers Of El -- ANU . Usually in The Koran When it says , '' That We Did This , Or We Created This Or Our Signs , Etc '' . It is referring to these ALLAHUMMAS Or ELOHEEM , ANNUNNAQIS . They are physical Angelic Beings ; No Spooks Or Spirits Or Ghosts .

    They Are Beings That Do The Work Of El , Or ALLAH . The word ALLAHUMMA , Or ELOHEEM Is found throughout The Scroll of The Koran and is falsely translated , As A Single With The Word , ' God . The name ALLAHUMMA Or ELOHEEM Is Used For Benevolent , Agreeable And Malevolent , Disagreeable Beings ; And Even In The Case For Human Being As Found In Exodus 7 ; 1 ; When Yahuwa Made Moses An ELOHEEM To Pharaoh Rameses ll .
     
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    There are many languages in this world where a plural Like "WE" in this case is used for a singular body FOR RESPECT. Arabic,Urdu,Hindi e.t.c ... U may ask dattaswami about this if he knows hindi well he'l be able to guide you : )

    Cheers , finally u r learning something!!!
     
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    I do believe your missing / side steping the point here , There's more then one Allah , Just like there's more then one God in the Bible ..
    ANUNNAQI / ELOHEEM
    Genesis R.T. 1;1-12 , 14 , 16 - 18 , 20 -22 , 24 -28 , 31 ; 2;2 ; 3;1, 5,6,9 ; 4;25 ; 5 ; 1 , 22; 6;2; 7;16 ; 8;1 ; 9 ;1 ; 20;3 ; 22;9 , 12 ; 27;28 ; 28;4 , 30;20 ; 35;4 , 5 ; 41 ; 39

    The word '' ANUNNAQI '' means '' Those Who ANU Sent Down , From Heaven To Earth '' . They came from the skies to the planet earth which was originally called Tiamat meaning '' Maiden Of Life ''. And also referred to as Tamtu And Tiwawat , And Qi , Ki , Tiamat .. Is also called Terra , Orb , Arduwt Or Ard . When the greek got hold of the word Qi , They changed it to Ge < Greek > Where the word Geo < Greek > comes from . . The ANUNNAQI in The Bible are called ELOHEEM . They got their name ANUNNAQI When they were coming to Earth . The ANUNNAQI are a race of Supreme Beings .

    The word ANUNNAQI is used within The Ancient Tablets such as The Enuma Elish , The Gilgamesh Epics , Etc . The word ELOHEEM <Aramic > means ''' These Beings '' Or '' A Group Of ELOHS '' . ELOHEEMS Are angels of El <Aramic > or messengers of EL ELOH Who is ANU . They are physical Angelic Beings , Not Spooks Or Spirits Or Ghost . They are a host of beings that do the work of EL < Aramic > While on The Planet Earth under an appointed being . Then they are called El < Aramic > Who is under AL or El <Aramic >

    The word '' ELOHEEM '' Is found throughout '' The Scroll Of Genesis and is Falsely translated as '' God '' The name ELOHEEM Is used for Both Agreeable And Disagreeable Beings And Even Humans As In Exodus 7 ; 1 , When YAHUWA < Aramic > Told MOSES That He Will Make Him An ELOHEEM For The PHARAOH . The ANUNNAQI , ELOHEEM
     
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    Christians and muslims present Bible and Quran as their proof ... what do u present ?
     
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    Q


    Fact's
     
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    U call those fairy tales a fact ?
     
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    dattaswami1 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thanks for the reply, but i have some thing to say on this.

    The spiritual knowledge should come directly from the Lord. If He sends His messenger, the messenger is not capable of delivering all the points as told by the Lord and is also incapable of explaining in excellent manner as explained by the Lord. Therefore, the knowledge delivered by the messenger is not as excellent as delivered by the Lord directly. This is the main reason for the Lord to enter the human body to preach the divine knowledge. But if the Lord in human body declares that He is the Lord directly speaking, people become jealous because they think the human incarnation as human being only, since they always see the external body only. They misunderstand that the human being is claiming himself as God.

    They cannot tolerate this due to their inherent jealousy and egoism towards the co-human beings. To solve this problem of majority of the people, the human incarnation has to say that He is only the messenger of God. Prophet Mohammad was really the human incarnation. But he never claimed himself as God due to this problem of majority. He said that He was only the messenger of God and that Q'ran was massage of God. Therefore, this Holy Scripture belongs to the angle of majority. The devotees who can realise the human incarnation are always very few only. To this minority the prophet can personally say that he is God or at least he is son of God. The message to minority need not be recorded, which can be orally delivered in person. Thus, Q'ran is a scripture for the majority. On the other hand Gita was the scripture of extreme minority, since Gita was told to Arjuna only.

    In Gita, Krishna told that He is the Lord. Here you must realize that the Lord is speaking through the human body of Krishna. In between the Q'ran and Gita lies Bible. Jesus told that He is the messenger of the God, which is the message for the majority. He also told that He is God, which is the message for extreme minority. In between lies the minority for which He said that He is Son of God. Thus, Bible is the message covering all the three phases of public, which are majority, minority and extreme minority. As we pass from one end to the other end in the above order, the egoism and jealousy reduce from 100 to 50 to 0.

    For majority dualism (Dvaita), for minority (Visista Advaita) and for extreme minority monism (Advaita) are preached by the human incarnation. Thus, in Christianity and Hinduism you can find all the three concepts. But in Islam you can find only Dvaita. You should not mistake that Islam is incomplete due to absence of the other two concepts. The merit in Islam is that no human being can claim himself as God and thus there is no danger of false human incarnation. But in Hinduism and Christianity there is always danger of fraud human incarnations. Again you should not criticize Hinduism and Christianity due to this danger. Assuming the possibility of danger of accident, will you avoid journey by bus or train or aeroplane? Thus, the positive and negative angles must be understood according to the context. However, in Christianity also, the danger is avoided because the Christians do not accept any other human incarnation as God except Jesus. Hinduism accepts every human incarnation as God. Thus, you can pass from Islam to Christianity to Hinduism.

    There is no danger in Islam and Christianity. In Islam no human incarnation is accepted. This is extremity to avoid the danger. In Christianity Jesus was accepted as human incarnation but no other human incarnation was accepted to avoid the danger of exploitation of fraud human incarnations. Thus, in Islam the concept was not admitted. In Christianity the concept was admitted but was limited to Jesus only to avoid the danger. In Christianity the statement ?Jesus will come again? completes the concept because it indicates that the human incarnation is again possible. Thus, the concept is completed in Bible. But by believing that Jesus comes only at the end of this creation, all the other human incarnations till the end are rejected.

    Thus, the concept is completed in theory but not completed in practical. In Hinduism the concept is completed in theory as well as in practical. Gita says that Krishna will come again and again whenever it is necessary (Yadayadahi..). This means that the human incarnation will come again and again in several places and in several religions in even one human generation, because there is necessity for such facility. Thus, in Hinduism the concept is completed in theory and practical, but the danger is always full.

    Thus, Hinduism recognises several human incarnations of Lord Datta (Krishna) as in the case of Sri Pada Vallabha, Sri Narasimha Saraswati, Sri Akkalkota Maharaj, Sri Sai Baba, etc. Hinduism recognises Buddha also as the human incarnation. Broad minded Hinduism recognises even Jesus, Mohammad, Mahaveer etc., also as human incarnations born in different religions. The universal spirituality is such broad minded Hinduism which is the broad minded Christianity, the broad minded Islam, the broad minded Buddhism and broad minded science. The Universal Spirituality contradicts and is prepared to argue with all religions limited with conservatism, provided these religions are prepared to accept the truth with open mind. The science with conservatism is atheism. When you realize all the three religions, namely Hinduism, Christianity and Islam, you will achieve the total concept, which is the universal spirituality. All the religions are different angles of the same central concept. You must observe the centre through all the angles from all the sides. Then only you can realise the total comprehensive central concept. Now you must see through the angles of Buddhism and science also.

    Buddhism speaks about the God present in the human incarnation by keeping silent about God. Silence means that God is beyond words and imagination. It does not indicate the absence of God. Buddhism is misunderstood as atheism. The time wheel (Kala Chakra) and the revolving bright wheel (Sudarsana Chakra) indicate that the time is constantly moving and that you will meet the death certainly one day or other. It indicates that you should hurry in detaching yourself from the world and that you should attach to the Lord as early possible.
     
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