Black Men : Know how to fight?

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  1. skuderjaymes

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    We fought a lot when I was growing up.. at school, at home, in the streets..
    somebody was always fighting.. it's how we dealt with conflict, protected
    our possessions, our honor, the honor of our families, projected our egos,
    proved ourselves to ourselves and to our friends.. we fought.. didn't
    matter what the schools said, what the police threatened, what the old
    lady on the corner said.. we fought. And as I remember, it felt wonderful
    to lay it all out there.. to put the best of what you could muster against your opponent--
    and even more.. to take his best and still stand there.. with the world still
    turning.. there was something in that that I still remember.. and even as
    an adult I recognize that some things are better handled hand to hand..
    no conflict resolution, no time-outs.. just straight up banging.. may the
    best man win.. and the loser relent.. it's one of the reasons that along,
    with all of the music and poetry and Art and literature and whatnot that
    I teach my boys.. they can also bang some heads.. and I don't care what
    they mama say.. boys need to know how to fight.. they also need to know
    when to fight.. cause when the folks you're supposed to call don't come,
    you better know what to do.. or better still.. when the folks that you called come at you..


    almost forgot to say what I wanted to say:
    Do you know how to fight? Do you keep your skills up? If so, how?

    My underlying opinion is that it's important for us to keep in touch with our
    physical selves..
     
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    I don't think having the ability to fight is a big a part as demeanor. I'm a scraper but look at my demeanor/character,(if you could) It fits the of someone who will fight when someone rubs you the wrong way. Everybody is not cut out to fight or be a fighter. There are people that will fight but won't fight to seriously hurt you,and there are those that are just the opposite. IMO,as you also stated, is to know when to fight and when not to.

    Peace!
     
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    peace

    I maintain thru meditation and martial arts to stay sharp and it actually helps to keep me out of fights......which is exactly what it is supposed to do, but i stay ready none the less.

    As many of you know already, that when people know you know how to "defend" yourself (which is different from fighting) most won't even test you, but you have some others who will try to get extra because of it trying to push you to your limits.

    Staying in shape is not only good physically, it is good for you mentally and helps to to create a more positive enviornment around you....if your true purpose for staying sharp is to help and not to hurt!
     
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    Do you know how to fight? Do you keep your skills up? If so, how?

    Brother, Like you I had to fight to earn my right! I had to fight for some of the silliest of things.
    Some times just to keep my candy!

    Like you my brother, it felt good to conquer my situation, to over come the obstacles before me.
    The power not to fear others, for they where no better than me. And that I could prove it!

    Now a`day I feel at ease in the knowledge that I can and will defeat most who threaten me!


    As you may remember I teach Capoeira, this keeps me in fighting shape. But I started out in boxing, Muay Thai .
    So aside from advance movements and footwork, I do light free weights and work on the heavy bag. I do some light running for 30 minute twice a week. Sparring different practitioners is always the best way to keep your mind sharp for fighting agility.
     
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    No, I don't know how to DEFEND myself. I wish I did, and for the longest time I've been telling myself to not just go to the gym but also learn a self defense art (got a family to protect now too). Maybe something like boxing or muay thai, or maybe something more brutal like krav maga.

    In any case, great thread brah.

    One,

    - Ikoro
     
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    Malcolm said folksshould learn the arts

    Most Black Nationalists have been training for a long long long time,
    and send their children to schools as well, but when to comes to senseless arguemets between our own,

    what honor is there in breaking bones, or splitting someones liver if conflict can be avoided


    As stated , it was something we did as children and grew out of it

    and in fact here in Brooklyn during the 70s in HS it was considered uncool, and that was a time when there were,
    8 gangs in Brooklyn alone.

    Nowadays that is all one sees among HS students and hear on the bus and train,
    and I have heard Black youth say

    'I HIT THAT N****,.... BAM!"
    for over 15 years and they are not just talking about a fellow student they are talking about a teacher or counselor as well.

    If someone sees 2 grown Black men in a fist fight they are either brothers, or drunk, or high or all three!
     
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    I get depressed thinking about the good fighters,
    I lost to the war, drugs or prison
     
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    Onyaka's workshop on Martial Arts and the survival of African people. Bro.
    Onyaka emphasized the importance of martial arts as an essential component in the African socialization process (i.e., rites of passage). He maintained that martial arts imparted vital skills and understandings consistent with the African imperative for survival and empowerment in the world.
     
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    know how to think?
     
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    James.. man.. has time completely extinguished your flame? or what?
    I can tell by your pictures that you used to choke folks out.. Fighting is not the
    antithesis of thinking. The question here is, after the thinking is through,
    and the decision has been made, do you know what to do? Is your physical
    intelligence intact? Do you know how to use your body to affect the outcome
    of a physical struggle? I know you are my father's age but their
    are martial arts like Aikido that older people can do.. and from what I've
    read and seen the older you get the more important it is that you excercise
    that mind to body connection..
     
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