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Hayah asher Hayah
You are not making any sense.
Them being in the Mdu Ntr has absolutely nothing to do with proven their authenticity.
The connection is the Essene buried their dead facing the Temple of Aten, not the temple that was destroyed in 70AD. Another connection Akhenaten’s name appears in the Copper Scrolls. Another connection, the copper purity and level of quality was only being manufactured in Egypt at that time. Another connection, one of the treasures recorded in the Copper Scrolls was found at Akhetaten exactly as the Essene had received the recording from ancestral writings, it was also found in exactly the same location as recorded, this is called Crock of Gold Squares which can now be viewed in the Museum of Berlin. The Essene record describes each peace that was found in the Crock.
The Essene records are simply recordings of the stashing of Temple treasures that were stashed by the high priests as they made a hasty Exodus because the Polytheistic Egyptians rebelled against Akhenaten and his following and they were on their way to plunder and destroy the Temple and Akhetaten.
The story in the Holy Scriptures is the story of the Amarna Period as the pharaohs struggled with the people between Polytheistic ideology and Monotheistic ideology.
I think you are not ready to accept the responsibility of being the Holy People.
With this you have even proven my point more that the Hebrew Script is the original and it has not been edited. If it had been edited then I would like to know:
How did Ralph Ellis use the Hebrew to establish the Egyptian ideology?
All of this goes to prove that the Holy Scriptures were written by Africans. Not just plain old Africans but Pharaohs and high Priests.
And that has been my main point all along.
It sounds like you are holding white people accountable for translating your African Language. It is not the job of the white man to informe you of whats going on. If Ralph Ellis can do it, so can you. I even started a Post translating the Hebrew to Egyptian.
But I will ask you, if you come up in here using Hebrew only how many brothers and sister you think you will reach?
The answer is very, very, very few. So you must talk from the point of view of the book they know and then you start working in the Hebrew to Egyptian.
There is only ONE Hebrew version, period. If I buy 20 different copies of the Hebrew, all of the symbols in those 20 different books will ALL be the exact same no matter what Jewish sect they were published by. They can be verified all the way back to 300BC-60AC through the Essene records.
Now you take a high priest copping the Holy Scriptures from worm eaten parchments and 1000-year-old papyrus and you can easily see how letter errors could be made.
You are misrepresenting the Dead Sea Scrolls, they do not read completely different at all. I have two books on the translations and they read the same.
And this brings us back to my previous question.
If the Hebrew is so edited and wrong then how is it possible to convert it back to Egyptian?
Why ain’t they suppose to be there?They are not supposed to be there which is the point that you seem not to get. What are these Grecian commentaries doing amongst Hebrew and Aramaic writings?
The Dead Sea Scrolls are from around 300BC-60AC, why couldn’t Greek writings be in them?All languages come from black cultures world wide so it would be wise not to assume it all comes from Africa. This takes away the accomplishment of other black cultures around the world. Now we are not talking about the Ionians but we are talking about the Jatt infested Grecian who existed around 332 BC. The pre-language before the Euro-Grecian empire has nothing to do with this modern Euro language so you cannot bring our ancient languages into this discussion especially when the language didn't resemble what was the writing language in 332 BC.
You are not making any sense.
The Mysteries of the Copper Scrolls of Qumran, The Essene Record of the Treasures of Akhenaten, by Robert Feather, ISBN 159143014-3.And you know this how? Secondly, where is the Essene mentioned in Mdu Ntr? I mean again, Im not above learning so please enlighten me. When you start bring Amarna into the equation you will have to prove to me the connection.
Them being in the Mdu Ntr has absolutely nothing to do with proven their authenticity.
The connection is the Essene buried their dead facing the Temple of Aten, not the temple that was destroyed in 70AD. Another connection Akhenaten’s name appears in the Copper Scrolls. Another connection, the copper purity and level of quality was only being manufactured in Egypt at that time. Another connection, one of the treasures recorded in the Copper Scrolls was found at Akhetaten exactly as the Essene had received the recording from ancestral writings, it was also found in exactly the same location as recorded, this is called Crock of Gold Squares which can now be viewed in the Museum of Berlin. The Essene record describes each peace that was found in the Crock.
The Essene records are simply recordings of the stashing of Temple treasures that were stashed by the high priests as they made a hasty Exodus because the Polytheistic Egyptians rebelled against Akhenaten and his following and they were on their way to plunder and destroy the Temple and Akhetaten.
The story in the Holy Scriptures is the story of the Amarna Period as the pharaohs struggled with the people between Polytheistic ideology and Monotheistic ideology.
I don’t think so. The Old Testament speaks highly of Bloodline. That is why white people make it their goal to convince black people they are the original Jews. It is a shame that every other brother and sister falls for that falsification of history.So then you agree with the white Europeans who wrote that they too can become Jew takeover and rule as Yahuda. I mean if your trying to build a gathering then why not gather your own clan i.e. village?
Whatever?This doesn't refute anything and if you reread what I wrote then you will not be using this scripture again because it make no reasonable argument whatsoever.
I think you are not ready to accept the responsibility of being the Holy People.
LOL, LOL, LOL, you going to have to show me in detail how a title “KJV Bible talk debate” in any way suggest that the entire KJV Bible is the Specific Word of GOD?So basically you are picking and choosing which parts of the bible you feel is the words of the Supreme Being. That which I just placed in the bold is not what you said in the previous post. This thread that you've started here say's "KJV bible talk debate" so we are referencing the KJV. Music Producer you have just reneged on your thread with this quote:
Yes, you got this information from Eden in Egypt by Ralph Ellis. It is one of the points he uses to prove Akhenaten and his elect band of Egyptian Priest wrote the Holy Scriptures. When the original Hebrew is converted to Egyptian the Name is simply a description of the movement of the Sun or the Moon. Only the Pharaoh Akhenaten and his followers would have recorded this. As Akhenaten’s ideology evolved we see that he started specifying the Hidden Power behind the sun or the moon.Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Upon looking at this verse you would think that this is YHWH who was avoiding giving a good answer.but he did give an answer yet the English translation soiled it thoroughly.
The so-called Hebrew/Kemetic forum of the text actual reads:
Exodus 3:14 And God said unto Moses, Hayah asher Hayah: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Which is to say:
And God said unto Moshe, I come to pass until I fall: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Hayah has sent me unto you.
The actual name of the YHWH is 'Hayah'.
With this you have even proven my point more that the Hebrew Script is the original and it has not been edited. If it had been edited then I would like to know:
How did Ralph Ellis use the Hebrew to establish the Egyptian ideology?
As I said earlier my brother, if you do not trust or like the English translations then learn Hebrew and then on top of that learn to convert Hebrew roots to Egyptian, it is that simple.This has been grossly mistranslated by white Europeans giving an illusion that god doesn't want to give the people his name yet he gives it 3 chapters later. The words 'I come to pass until I fall' is the cycle of the Sun and Moon and because in Hosea 13:4 he said I come from Egypt then we must assume that Hayah/YHWH is none other than the Egyptian Moon God - Yah. In Psalm 68:4 he is called by Jah/Yah and so due to the gross mistranslation of the scriptures this knowledge has been hidden from the people.
All of this goes to prove that the Holy Scriptures were written by Africans. Not just plain old Africans but Pharaohs and high Priests.
And that has been my main point all along.
You are pushing it when you say “13 different meanings”. All of the Hebrew words I have punched into translators have seldom produced 13 different meanings. But anyway you understand it the same way you understand English, through “Content, Subject and Theme”.So now that we are at the Hebrew language one word can carry up to 13 different meaning, how do we know which meanings to accept because picking and choosing words can alter reality as it exist in the Torah world today.
It sounds like you are holding white people accountable for translating your African Language. It is not the job of the white man to informe you of whats going on. If Ralph Ellis can do it, so can you. I even started a Post translating the Hebrew to Egyptian.
But I will ask you, if you come up in here using Hebrew only how many brothers and sister you think you will reach?
The answer is very, very, very few. So you must talk from the point of view of the book they know and then you start working in the Hebrew to Egyptian.
Once again you avoided Jer: 9:16. I have several other futuristic prophesies from the Old Testament that could have only been applied to Africans but you can’t even get past this one.All so-called prophecies were fullfilled in the day's of old and they do not pertain to the moderns i.e. US as I assume you believe. There are situations that appear to mirror our modern events but I have a feeling we are going to go through this once you avoid the above last quoted statement.
OK I will simplify this for you:I understand that the white Europeans have added books to the bible (New and Old Testament) but you keep referring to new the original Hebrew and I have yet to get you to answer this simple question, "what original Hebrew"?
There is only ONE Hebrew version, period. If I buy 20 different copies of the Hebrew, all of the symbols in those 20 different books will ALL be the exact same no matter what Jewish sect they were published by. They can be verified all the way back to 300BC-60AC through the Essene records.
The most difference you will find is Hebrew letters that look alike. It is very difficult to distinguish between the Hebrew “H” and the Hebrew “CH”. The same goes with the Hebrew “D” and the Hebrew “R”. I run into this problem all the time when viewing different Hebrew fonts.You cant say the Dead Sea Scrolls because they do read different number 1, and tho some of the verses resemble what is in the Tanakh its not enough to say that the Tanach was translated from the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Now you take a high priest copping the Holy Scriptures from worm eaten parchments and 1000-year-old papyrus and you can easily see how letter errors could be made.
You are misrepresenting the Dead Sea Scrolls, they do not read completely different at all. I have two books on the translations and they read the same.
And this brings us back to my previous question.
If the Hebrew is so edited and wrong then how is it possible to convert it back to Egyptian?