Brother AACOOLDRE : King Tut and Jesus

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  1. AACOOLDRE

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    KING TUTANKHAMEN & CHRISTIANITY

    “It be among the Jews…they change the words from their right times and places” Koran 5:45

    To: Concerned Ministers
    From: Andre Austin
    Subject: King Tutankhamen & Christianity

    I believe in a Christ; I just don’t know what era he came from. I doubt Jesus lived during the time frame of Herod and Pontus Pilate. The Koran writes that errors were reported in the OT & NT. The Koran 19:28 states that Mary was the sister of Aaron. This can be interpreted as either being of a distant genealogical line or a contemporary with Aaron and Moses. You have stated in the past Mary had Egyptian genes. I never read in the Koran any historical figures in conjunction with a Jesus of Pilates time.

    So do we have a Jesus of 33Ad or King Tutankhamen of 1324 Bc. One is a pseudo-lamb of 666 the other maybe a legitimate 777. All living Egyptian Kings embraced Horus while in office. Both Jesus and King Tut were admirers of Horus. Jesus reproduced Horus miracle of turning water into wine @ Cana a fictional city of Horus’s making grape-water @ a Canal. Both Jesus and King Tut were named after Amen. The Ram/lamb was also called Amen in Egypt. Revelations says 666 will be like a lamb. So I’m thinking they are talking about a Ram.

    New studies of X-rays done on King Tut’s spine reveal he had a hunchback, with frail health and a fragile spinal cord. He must of lived in pain with his many walking sticks in his possession. Now they say Isaiah wrote in 700BC that “A man [Jesus] of suffering, accustomed to infirmity” Isaiah 53:3. Paul says Jesus was crucified in his Infirmity/weakness 2 Cor 13:4 ;9. JA Rogers wrote in the 1950’s a book called Nature Knows No Color Line. Rogers tracked down rare, suppressed writings from Josephus that said Jesus was hunchbacked. Now if you carefully read Isaiah they were talking about a man who already lived and died. When Moses wrote of King Tut/Jesus in Deuteronomy 18:19/ Exodus 20:7 he said he would die because he would call god by other names. This fits Tut’s name of Amen and name change to Aton. Moses wanted only Aton (Hear ,O Israel, the lord our God Aton is one Deut 6:4 Sigmund Freud said you can interchange Lord/Aton which makes logic out of Deut 18.). Jesus in the NT called out to Eli, (Elohim/Power of breath or gave up the ghost/wind) on his Cross, which was linked with Amen. Note at the Easter/Passover Jesus died and got his breath/life back. The Christian Easter is a mirror image of the Egyptian’s “Breath of life celebration. Jesus also linked himself with Jehovah which has the components of Aton which was Tut’s original name.

    With King Tut (Jesus) being very ill he would have quite naturally sought after magic for cures. As a matter of fact the Talmud states “Phihas (Phinehas) hanged Jesus… because he hath practiced magic” (Sanh.,43a/106b). The reason the name Phinehas can be seen serving both Moses and Akhenaton’s administration is due to the fact the last two were one and the same. Now lets get back to magic. Magic was also apart of the anointing process of Egyptian Kings. The fat from crocodiles were used to anoint kings on their foreheads for them to have wisdom and forethought to lead their subjects. The image of two crocodiles were used at the kings coronation. The last zodiac sign in Egypt was a crocodile; and Rome changed it to two fishes/Pisces. Christianity became symbolic of the fish after it left Aries the Lamb. The word for Messiah was Crocodile in Egypt which I already stated was the process for installing kings. Now we know the anti-Christ is supposed to be a king and 666 will be on his forehead or hand. US presidents use the symbol of raising hand to be installed to taking power. Read the writings of Plutarch in Isis and Osiris which associates 666 with crocodiles, forethought and creation. Rev asks for insight & wisdom to figure out 666. The Catholic Bible has one of its chapters of Ezekiel as: “Egypt the crocodile” referring to their kings.

    ALL THE COMPONENTS OF 666
    Numbers are symbols.

    7 is symbolic of Perfect/Complete
    6 is symbolic of Imperfect/Incomplete

    Go to the dictionary look up Hex=witch/magician then Hexad=a series of six’s.

    Sir E.A. Wallis Budge wrote in The Gods of the Egyptians Volume 2, that Heka/magic was symbolic of a deformed, imperfectly created frog or man. Now king Tut having been born deformed with medical problems would here again be symbolically linked with Heka. Paul tells us Jesus was “made perfect” through his sufferings (Heb 5:9). This implies that he wasn’t born perfect and advances Isaiah 53, I’m understanding he had a life long illness. Matthew Henry’s Commentary gives this context to Hebrews 5 “We may have many recoveries from sickness, but we are never saved from death till we are carried well through it” (p.1915). Moses/Akhaton the reputed the father of Tut is said by Egyptologist to have had a back back also.

    Now the Bible says that their can be many anti-Christ and false Messiahs that came in the past and in the future. Now all I’m saying is that the angel of light making many magical transformations and sorcery of tricks as said in the NT was based on King Tut who lived and died a very long time ago. No wonder Revelations say Christ was spiritually killed in Egypt. Now also note that the end of the world/age is the beginning of the zodiac sign of Aquarius which starts in 2012. There will be no lake of fires unless we keep up with the self-destruction onslaught of global warming.

    Kin g Tut was associated with Thoth. The Koran calls Satan Iblis. An Egyptian who invented magic, numbers, and crafts was called Thoth. Thoth was pictured with the Ibis bird who feet could symbolically form the 6 pointed star of David/Pillars of Solomon. Revelation associated spiritual evil with a unnamed Bird. Do we have a link with Iblis & Ibis?. Revelation also claims that no craftsmen are needed in its new city. So we have 666 being linked with:

    1.Frogs/ Heka being incompletely/imperfectly formed; gods of fertility. (6)
    2.Crocodiles/ Messiah’s anointing Kings with a vision of wisdom
    3.Birds/ Ibis bird and possibly Iblis from the Koran
    4.Magicians/ False healing remedies
    5.Craftmen/ Making images with their hands for worship
    6.Lambs/ Shepherds aligned with Horus
    7.Amen/ the spirit of blasphemy against the Holy spirit
    8.Messiah in the image of two crocodiles or two Fish of Pisces
    9.Angels of Light using transformational forms of magic like fire from the sky
    10.Venus is the Bride clouded, veiled in sheep (ram) attire
    11.Lucifer an anti-Christ with angels following his orders
    12.Morning Star & Evening star Satan tries to become.
    13.Upside down Pyramids & Upright Pyramids also being linked with the keys of Peter whose real name was based on the Egyptian God called Pet.
    14. Words of Power another name for magic or peaking/Blasphemy against the holy spirit/Amen. Amen is linked with air/spirit. Not only speaking against spirit but comparing it to another spirit/amen.
    15. A bronze snake wrapped around a pole/tree Thoth used for his magical powers for cures. Just think of Satan first appearing to Adam wrapped around a tree. Now I find it very interesting Jesus compares himself to the bronze snake in John 3:14-15.I see this not as a parable or reenactment of history but indeed a cryptic way of implicating Moses with Phinehas in his very own death (Num 21:9). The symbol of this serpent was probably is UAT'CHET (pronounced "OOH-WAH-JET" is a Goddess deity that represents divine insight, premonition, the power of discernment, etc. Incidentally, these are the same attributes needed to figure out what 666 is. First of all premonition/foretelling is a form of magic. “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number…666” (Rev 13:18) This snake was placed at the forehead of Egyptian kings.
    16. Magic is responsible for the world being deceived from God (Rev 18:23)
    17. Tut’s crown was partly a form of magic.Paul speaks against crowns that are not eternal 1 Cor 9:25. Thoth also had the “crown of Shu”. Shu was a god of light/air. Shu was responsible for giving life (air) to the dead and living. Revelations 2:10 talks about crowns of life.

    So the debate is on did Jesus operate some low-riding chariots with the 18th Egyptian dynasty with Moses or did Herod and Pilate hold court on him sometime after 30Ad? Zondervan Handbook of the Bible (p.573) says the killing of Jesus was an reenactment of OT Passover killings of Egyptians (Matthew 26). Therefore Jesus was Egyptian because he died. The Passover lamb blood on doors in OT and Jesus death in the NT drinking of his blood is no reenactment but two events happening in on time period. It was no reenactment they were telling the real story symbolically but eliminated the true time frame. It’s very interesting when the Bible stated that the messiah was an Egyptian pharaoh, and the lord was his executioner “The lord smote…the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne” Exodus 12:29. Therefore before a Pharaoh was killed at the Passover another Pharaoh was living without occupying his throne at the same time that is, (King Tut and Akhenaton. Like I said before all Egyptian kings were the personification of Horus with Jesus being no exemption. With Akhenaton actually being Moses writing the death warrant of Jesus/King Tut in Deuteronomy 18. Jesus did say OT figures out of him. Jesus died first then later Moses being killed by a new Pharaoh. Jews had nothing to do with killing Jesus or Moses, the country and people to blame was Egypt.

    I’m convinced that 666 wasn’t talking about a future king who would be the Anti-Christ but King Tut who lived in died along time ago. Like the Koran said the gospels were corrupted and tampered with in its proper time and place. King Tut was hung on a tree (Acts 5:30)just like the fictional Jesus. Autopsy reports his head became dislocated as a possible result of him being hung. All of this was conspired by the OT priest Pinehas (a Nubian) and a grandson of Aaron who was in turn a sister of Mary who was the mother of Jesus. He (Jesus/King Tut) already had a frail/weak spinal cord being attached to his head. He probably was hit in head and knocked off a horse and then hung on a tree. Or being attacked first in a tent. Phinehas didn’t kill Zimri and another women editors switched them for Tut and and his wife..

    There are too many similarities and coincidences not to dismiss the claims that the bible writers wanted to have leaders and cut them off their roots from the Egyptian theology, politics, law and culture. Revelations I believe knew some ancient oral traditions like Isaiah knew and guarded it secretly under cryptic, veiled terminology of a Lamb with two horns having 666. The original Messiah, Tut was turned into a imitator of Christ who committed blasphemy against God and his name (Exodus 20:7).

    Footnotes:

    Phinehas was a zealot (Num 25:11), a term which is applied to militants who use weapons. Phinehas did kill with a spear (Num 25:8). Phinehas is linked with the honor of god and Atonement for Israel (Num 25:13). Out of all names to invent they used Atonement the root word for Aton which Moses said Jesus violated (Deut 6:4; Deut 18:20). Jesus violated by speaking of God in other names. This was the transitions and switching from Aton to Amen. Moustafa Gadalla in his books states that Atonement was changed for the killing of Jesus to a general day for repentance and making Amends for sins which is linked with the Passover in Egypt during the time of Moses (Exodus23:15, Deut 16).


    Case Closed on this old murder case.
     
  2. Omowale Jabali

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    Very interesting post. The only problem I has is associating Khemetic/Egyptians with "hebrews". The "hebrew" account of these indiiduals and events is not the original but an account from the original Pharaonic texts.
     
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    read some of the writings of Ahmed Osman works. He says King Tut was half Egyptian half Hebrew. As a matter of fact Joseph was put in charge and was given a ring and gold chain from Pharaoh (Genesis 41:42). They have found his body with the gold chain in an Egyptian tomb. Later Jewish writers knew this so they inserted a fasle story that his bones were taken out of Egypt. I'm saying all of this because this joseph was related to two Egyptians Moses and Tut.

    Joseph in Egypt
    The Patriarchs
    Were the accounts of David and Solomon in the Bible an attempt to purloin the glorious history of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty? Not according to the research of Ahmed Osman, which indicates that at least one faction of the Israelites considered themselves to be descendants of the royal Egyptian House of David, and that the achievements of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty beginning with Thutmose III were actually their own. (See Appendix B.)

    Ahmed Osman has discovered that the legacy of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty included not only David and Solomon, but Joseph, Moses, and Joshua whose stories are patterned respectively after the historical lives of Yuya (prime minister and father-in-law of Amenhotep III), Amenhotep IV (son of Amenhotep III, who later changed his own name to Akhenaten), and Tutankhamun (also a descendant of Amenhotep III and the last of the Thutmosid's to sit on the 18th Dynasty throne).

    A Hebrew Wife for Solomon
    Even though the Bible does not mention a Hebrew wife of Solomon (Amenhotep III), he, by definition, would have required at least one. We now know that Amenhotep III did have a wife of significant Hebrew descent.(1) She is another key to understanding why the authors/editors of the Bible considered the history of 18th Dynasty Egypt to rightfully be theirs. In Egypt, the word for Hebrew did not apply to a specific tribe, or place (Hebron), but to an entire social class of foreign workers (Semitic, Asiatic, or otherwise).(2)

    Upon the death of Pharaoh Thutmose IV, a situation identical to the one encountered by Thutmose III appears to have occurred. Although Thutmose IV is known to have had daughters, they apparently were not through his Chief Wife, Mutemiya, and did not qualify to inherit the title "God's Wife." In addition to being married to a daughter of Thutmose IV, Amenhotep III was married to Tiye (a pet form of the name Nefertari)(3) who was the daughter of Tuya (a pet form of the name Ahhotep)(4) and the Superior of the Harem of Amun as was Huy in Thutmose III's time.(5) (See Chart, "Pharaohs of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty.") Tiye, and not the daughter of Thutmose IV, became Amenhotep III's Chief Wife.

    Amenhotep's accession and marriage to Tiye was widely proclaimed by the distribution of commemorative "scarabs" (examples of which have been found at the far extremities of the empire).(6) The names of Tiye and her parents are plainly stated, "the Great King's Wife Tiye: the name of her father is Yuya, and the name of her mother is Tuya."(7)

    Tuya had traditional Egyptian features, however her husband Yuya, as his exceptionally well preserved mummy shows, was clearly of mostly Asiatic/Semitic heritage. Asiatics were renowned for their handling of horses, and were highly valued in the Egyptian military during the 18th Dynasty at which time the Egyptians first utilized the chariot in warfare. Yey, a forefather of Yuya, had also held the title of "Commander of the Chariotry."(8)

    Yuya, also written as simply Yu,(9) has been associated with the Biblical Patriarch Joseph by Osman.(10) The name Joseph (written as Yuseph in Arabic)(11) is a compound name consisting of Jo or Yu,(12) and Seph.(13) Jo/Yu is the Hebrew root word Yah, the contraction of the full name of Jehovah. Yah is used to form many other common Biblical names, such as Joel (meaning Jehovah is God). Seph is derived from the first part of the Egyptian name (Zaphnath-pa-a-neah)(14) given to Joseph, and can be translated as "sustenance" as the Bible indicates.(15) The 1st Century A.D. historian Josephus quotes from the 3rd Century B.C. history of the Egyptian priest Manetho that in the time of Amenhotep III, Osarseph (literally "Vizier Seph") prohibited the worship of the Egyptian gods.

    The description of the Egyptian Vizier Seph, i.e., Joseph in the Book of Genesis is consistent with that of a vizier of 18th Dynasty Egypt, and the titles given to Joseph in the Bible are identical to those of Yuya (Genesis 41:40-45; 45:8; Isaiah 41:8, James 2:23).(16) Yuya's titles (as found in his tomb) included "Master of the Horse," "Overseer of the Cattle of Amun and Min (Lord of Akhmin)," "Deputy of His Majesty in the Chariotry," "Bearer of the Ring of the King of Lower Egypt," "Mouth of the King of Upper Egypt," "The Wise One," "Favorite of the Good God," "Great Prince," "Great of Love," "Unique Friend," "Beloved of the Lord of the Two Lands," "One Made Great by the Lord," "He Whom the King Has Made His Double," and "The Holy Father of the Lord of the Two Lands."(17)

    The Bible credits Joseph for a tremendous influx of wealth into Egypt due to his plan to prepare for an extended drought. The seemingly inexhaustible wealth of Egypt at this time was devoted to the extravagant building programs of Amenhotep III. That Yuya was held in very lofty esteem (for whatever reason) is evidenced not only by his titles, but by his marriage to the high ranking Tuya (the Asenath, Genesis 41:45, of the Genesis story and associated with the priesthood of On),(18) and also by his exceedingly privileged burial in a tomb beside those of the 18th Dynasty Pharaohs themselves in the Valley of the Kings. The tomb of Yuya and Tuya was the most undisturbed tomb found in the Valley of the Kings prior to the discovery of the tomb of Tutankhamun.

    Corresponding to the Bible account, Yuya literally became "father to Pharaoh," that is to the young Pharaoh Amenhotep III, who was not yet a teenager upon the death of his natural father Thutmose IV.(19) Childhood articles belonging to both Amenhotep III and Sitamun were placed in the tomb of Yuya and Tuya indicating that they helped raise them along with their own daughter Tiye.(20)

    After Amenhotep III became Pharaoh, he built a palace for Sitamun in Thebes as mentioned above. Amenhotep also built a palace for Tiye at Thebes and a second residence for her at the Nile delta fortress city of Zarw in the Biblical Land of Goshen.(21) At Zarw, the son of Amenhotep and Tiye, Amenhotep IV, was born and spent his childhood sheltered from all political enemies of the royal family (who may have at least been suspected in the death of Amenhotep III's eldest son Thutmose V in Memphis).(22)
     
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    I have read Osman extensively along with Laurence Gardner and others who claim that Pharaoh Akhenaten was "Moses". These people are trying to use this information to make links with the so-called Merovignian/Holy Grail bloodline of Yeshua and Mary Magdelene.

    Historically, Pharaoh Akhenaten and his son Tutankamen, are Pharaohs of the Egyptian 18th Dynasty who modern day Egyptologists are attempting to convert into biblical patriarchs. This is nothing more than attempts to revise African history and usurp it by placing it within a FOREIGN, "hebrew" context.
     
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    "Royal Egyptian House of David"??

    Who exactly is considered "David"?

    Amenophis III is "Solomon"??

    If this speculation is taken literally it establishes the chronology in the "holy bible" as inaccurate since now Osman, and others, are placing David, Moses, Solomon and Jesus within the same Dynasty, within four generations.
     
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    peace Brother O,

    Not only placing these characters within the same dynasty, but what is funny too me is they can't even show and prove any of them existed outside of their respective religious texts........

    peace
     
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    Correct
    And this new thinking is gaining track. Eventually its going to spill over into the mainstream media
     
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