Black Spirituality Religion : Kemet and Catholicism

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  1. Nisa

    Nisa Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Horus becomes Roman, Christian, changes name to Jesus...

    "In their hidden character the enigmas of the Egyptians were very similar to those of the Jews."
    – Clement of Alexandria (Stromata, v7 iii p56)


    At first glance, the Egyptian pantheon presents a bewildering array of gods but properly understood many deities were city or regional 'variations on a theme,' gods whose fortunes rose or fell with the outcome of human power struggles and dynastic change. Triumphant priests merged useful aspects of a fallen rival's deity with their own favoured god. This process of absorption, assimilation and adaptation continued throughout the Greek, Roman – and Christian eras.

    In their first two centuries, the followers of Christ had no particular images of their god. Emerging as they did from Judaism they disdained "idol worship." They were even accused of being atheists. But once the break with Judaism was complete the Christ worshippers rapidly made up the deficiency by adapting for Christian use pagan images, rituals, sacred sites, and symbols.

    This process occurred most energetically in Egypt, a land awash with religious iconography. From the 3rd century AD onwards, Egyptian Christian – 'Coptic' – art displayed a syncretistic and fused tradition – Roman, Greek and Pharaonic – with a Christian veneer. Such art faithfully reflected a deeper truth: the regurgitation of ancient religious belief in the new guise of 'Christianity.'

    http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/out-of-egypt.html
     
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    Nisa, the Warrior Priestess is here!

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    Thanks for sheading this light.
     
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    The Vatican,Gnostic Gospels and suppression of women in Church
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    GNOSTIC GOSPELS

    Gnostic meant attaining higger spritualty through knowledge.

    If the New testament accounts could support a range of interpretations, why did orthodox Christians in the secound century insist on a literal view of resurrection and reject all others as heretical? I suggest that we cannot answer this question adequately as long as we consider the doctrine only in terms of its religious content. But when we examine its practical effect on the Christian movement, we can see, paradoxically, that the doctrine of bodily resurrection also serves an essential political function: it legitimizes the authority of certain MEN who claim to exercise exclusive leadership over the churches as the successors of the apostle Peter. From the second century, the doctrine has served to validate the apostolic succession of bishops, the basis of papal authority to this day.The Gnostic called the Bishops and deacons “waterless Canals”. They opposed the development of church hierarchy.

    The Gnostic refuted with the Catholic church over the equality of Men and women and the literal view over the resurrection. The Catholic saw their religion as a means to subvert power over women.The Catholic and orthodox saw god is only knowable by faith. They argue that , if the principles of demonstration\became known to us through experience derived from the senses. This, however, is false; and even if it were true, god could be known from his sensible effects.[some Gnostics say they derived gnosis from their own experience] Perhaps when the Bible said “we walk by faith (unknown) not by sight (knowledge)” was an insertion to attack the Gnostic. If the orthodox failed to suppress the Gnostic they would have never grew. The Gnostic also claimed God was both male and female because he created Adam and Eve in his image. We know Eve was made from Adam. God would be limited if he was just one but he was at least 2 in one some say three. The Catholics failed to understand that their name refers to God as male/Cat and Hathor/female which also symbolic of the sun and moon which is the 2 keys of Peter Gold/sun and silver/moon. But they rejected this in order to have power over women. They say Catholic means Universal. That’s true. But it also means the Sun/male and the Moon/female which the Egyptians passed to the Gnostic.

    Bishops and priests were original married 1 timothy 3:2. Their mythical first Pope derived from the Egyptian Pet/Peter had kids. But now you can’t marry. Why? When priests were married, they naturally tried to pass on church property to their sons. They could do this legally if their sons became priests; therefore one of the first steps of the reform party, when it acquired power, was to forbid the ordination of priests sons. And all of that talk of women being silent in church had no religious bases but pure politics

    Another Gnostic writing, called the great Announcement, quoted by Hippolytus in his Refutation of all heresies, explains the origin of the universe as follows: From the power of Silence appeared a great power, the Mind of the Universe, which manages all things, and is a male…the other…a great intelligence is a female which produces all things. Following the gender of the greek words for mind Nous-masculine and intelligence epinoia-feminine, these powers , joined in union (Universe). Proponents of these diverse views agreed that the divine is to be understood in terms of a harmonious, dynamic relationship of opposites. Gnostic saw catholic as union or two pyramids united together as sunrise=sun/sunset=moon. Interesting is the Egyptian Peter is the rock foundation of heaven holding up heaven with two pyramid pillars; the obvious two skelton keys of the NT Peter. As a matter of fact if you look at the Vatican or papal crest, you will see that the dome of st peter’s basilica and the crossed keys of peter also form the skull and crossbones. The Egyptian Peter keys are two Pyramids ; a greek word for martyr/witness. So we have the Egyptian Jesus/Horus and Osiris dying at a pyramid when the sun crosses through the pyramid. The NT Peter is killed upside down like a pyramid forming a V. We have the Mason Hiram/Osiris dying at king Solomon’s temple/pyramid too. Solomon has the Egyptian attributes of Ptah and Thoth. Ptah a craftman passing on secret wisdom for Children of the sun to build pyramids.

    The Gnostics also taught that the Kingdom of God is within you. Kingdom symbolizes a state of transformed consciouness. The Kingdom within you through internal transformation. They say the lamp of the body is the mind; and the light of the lamp is within you.So the kingdom was a state of mind/heart within you the spirit of you not in some Judgement day. When the bible talks of the end of the world, this is a mistranslation. We are not facing the end of the world, but the end of age, the 2,160 years of the Pisces. The 12 Zodiac signs change every two thousand plus years. “One of the recently discovered sayings of Christ (In the Gospel of Thomas/ Luke 17:21) parallels Akhnaton’s utterances. ‘Ye ask, it runs who are those that draw us to the kingdom if the kingdom is in heaven? The fowls of the air [Above], and all the beasts that are under the earth [below] or upon the earth, and the fishes in the sea, these are they which draw you, and the Kingdom is within you’-The life and times of Akhnaton By Arthur Weigall p.108 Irenaes says the true church was like a “pillar and ground”. Socrates was killed for teaching what was above and below. Plato associated heaven with two pyramids one pointing up/above the other down/below.This links himself with the Memphite theology of the Egyptians.

    Luke 17:21 associates the Kingdom within you too.

    In conclusion I see the Bible being tampered with for political gain of men trying to control the masses with “Paul’s invention, his device for establishing priestly tyranny”-so says Friedrich Nietzsche. But Paul’s writings were tampered with after his death if he was a real person. Paul claims in Acts to be like Hermes/thoth the inventor of wisdom and this little admission connents him with Egyptian priest through Gnostic writings and plato.

    Plato asserted that Knowledge was perception (Eyes). The Bible rejected Knowledge by saying we walk by faith not by sight. But The Bible tells you to seek (see) for knowledge. That knowning the truth sets you free. The eye in Egypt symbolizes health and knowledge. Luke 11:33-34 copied this from Egypt. Akhnaton would say “Eyes have life at sight of thy beauty; hearts have health when the aton shines” This is why after masons get their last degree they are called shriners. After taking many steps/degrees up the mountain/pyramid they connect with the eye/sun/knowledges at the top and become what the Egyptian book of dead calls “the shining ones”. Plato knew of this.The newly emerging schools of hermetic, Neo-Platonic and Gnostic thought in Europe were loosely based on the Nile valley principles of education, which were designed to awaken within an individual “knowledge of self”. This knowledge led to an awareness of the powers of god which exist within man, as expressed in the myths of Osiris and Horus. This philosophy was made into a direct conflict with false Bible writers of Christianity, which incorrectly taught literally versions that mankind was conceived in sin and salvation could only be gained through Jesus, the Pope or other accepted intermediaries. But like I said the symbolic Jesus taught that the Kingdom was within you. But we had politicians in Rome and elsewhere who deviated from the original teachings from Egypt.In Egypt Isis was a priest and women played significant roles in their religious ceremonies. The subjugation of women isn’t a religious thing but coming from the minds of Western fools.
     
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    I agree....Idolatry and Christianity don't go together.
     
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    No good

    I've never this many statements mired in a paradox the way i see here.

    It matches perfectly.

    http://destee.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62085
     
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    And your point is?? :10500:
     
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    Exactly

    Thanks a mil

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    About Catholicism

    The first people that will tell you that catholicism is a political and occult institution, andd pretends to be a religion,
    are working class Italians, and irish.

    Many popes were aetheist and there are several noted quotes to that effect.

    The connection to Kemet was more then likely for occult reasons and just like the Rosicrucians, Martinists, Thelemists, Freemasons, Knights Templar, Illuminati, they adopted the African motifs for ritual use.

    The Vatican is full of Kemetic architectural "signatures other then the obvious strategicaly based ley line,
    obelisks.

    A large part of the vatican is secret

    When a pope dies he is placed in a sealed chamber with
    statues of Heru at his head and feet.

    The vatican library has the largest collection of occult writings and artifacts in the world, and just like the nazis in "Raiders of the Lost Ark", they , colonized and conqoured the3rd world, not to as they say spread a religion, but to collect the "High Roots Arts" from every indegenous culture they came into contact with
     
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    You're so very welcomed. :kiss:
     
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