Black People : Katrina weaker than reported

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  1. Therious

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    The truth has come out.

    Not only was Katrina weaker than reported (but still on of the strongest),but all those rapes and murders they claimed were happening up in the SuperDome was a lie also.

    I knew better than that myself, I can't think of any Black men who would openly allow girls to get rape and abused in thier midst anyway. Even if they were abusers themselves, if they caught you doing it in public they'd still bash your head in on principle.
    So I knew all those stories were lies.



    But it's obvious those levees were bombed, but the racist corporate controled media is refusing to report on it.

    It's up to us to do something about the slice by slice genocide being prepared for us.


    I'll tell you the living truth, more racist and bold sh*t has happend during these last 5 years to AfroAmericans than the last 30 all together.
     
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    Trust me when I tell you that some of that ish they say was happenin in the Dome and Convention Center really happened and that's from folk I know that was in them hell holes...they didn't see it in progress but only the aftermath....for sure in the Dome a 5 year old girl was raped and had her throat slashed but wasn't found for a day or so because they hid her body in one of the lockers in the player's dressing rooms....don't get it twisted some funky ish was going on in them buildings some of them folks that was trapped in there was the worst of the worst of what NO has to offer and they were in a situation where there was no law....same in the Convention center....women getting raped a couple old dudes killed...bodies out front because they were stinking inside and the folk moved them....now a couple cats got caught doing dirt and were handled but that stuff did happen....
    don't let some of these folk fool you bruh and lessen what was going on down there it was chaos......but then again I'm not going on written reports I'm getting it from my friends and folk that was in it.......
    as far as the hurricane goes a cat 3 is still a bad storm.....and yes the levee's were built to deal with a cat 3 but the levee system and pumps in NO are almost 100 years old..with few if any upgrades in those years...it's not the wind that caused the problem in NO...wind is what destroyed the Mississippi coast what killed NO was storm surge..a hurricane traveling through the gulf pushes water in front of it when that hurricane comes on land so does that wall of water it don't take much for water to come over them levees..if you've ever been down there and looked you know there's not that much leeway between the levee and the water it's keeping out.....I've seen it flood in uptown by my Uncle's pad after 1 day of hard rain....and I mean knee to thigh deep water after 1 day....now imagine getting a wall of water pushed into them old levees along with the rains that came with it....I don't think the levee was blown I just believe that nobody cared and never put any govt funds into it to improve them...the Bush and Clinton administration actually took funds that were supposed to be used for levee improvment and used it elsewhere ..........


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    I'm not saying it was Paradise up in there, I know better than that.

    But I haven't seen any disaster survivors and victims demonized as these people have been, right from jump street.

    I know dirt was probably done but most of the reporters themslelves even had to retract some of that crap they were spouting all over the world about nurses getting raped and gangs of wild addicts roaming the city eating people alive.

    2 examples right off the bat:

    They had reported that people were shooting AT the helicopters and rescue units that were dispatched to look for survivors....but that didn't sound right to me.

    I wish I had been on this site when it all went down because I said if people were shooting, they probably weren't shooting AT rescuers but probably just trying to get thier attention for help.

    And it turned out that this WAS the case!


    Now the example you gave about a 5 year old girl being raped, killed, and stuffed in an oven.

    I can't say whether it was true or false, but I DO know the chief of N.O.P.D came on the Oprah Winfrey show crying and going on and he said that the girl was 12.
    Later on he had to take THAT back and say so much was going on, he wasn't sure what really went down because HE heard it from someone else.

    So we have so many discrepancies.

    The bodies of all these rape and murder victims said to be laying all over the place were hurriedly gathered up even before pictures and police were able to confirm them.

    So I don't know what's going on, I know I can't trust this media to give me the truth.
     
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    I don't know about the chief of the NOPD but my cousin saw the 5 year old....there were many folks offed and raped in those two places....

    and some of them cats that were in there are demons....straight animals....as far as the heli's getting shot at I can't speak to that nobody I know saw that and I'm trying to just speak on what I know..and the little girl wasn't put in an oven it was a locker.....and like I said a lot of them boys that were still there were and are gangsters, thugs and addicts..and suddenly they were thrust into a situation of complete lawlessness.....where there were no consequences for their actions......and they went BUCK.....a potna of mine is NOPD him and a couple other cops got pinned down one night down there in uptown and them dude wasn't shooting at them to get their attention ...I just don't like it when folks say...oh it's the media the people couldn't be that bad it couldn't have been that bad.....it was and some of them are....1 boy that was an evacuee staying at a shelter in my hometown shot and killed a girl over a bad of ice......6 other boys from NO that evacuated in their ride got stopped right outside of town for brandishing a weapon and were found to have 8 kilos of coc and 50 pounds of weed in their ride....

    but then if I hadn't spent a lot of time down there and in some of them projects where a lot of these boys came out of then I might say...nah...couldn't be........but it was a lot more than dirt happenin down there to a lot of folk....


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    This is interesting.

    VERY interesting.........

    Which city was this incident in?

    And how did they know eachother?

    I await your answer.
     
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    Natchez MS ......there were 2 bags of ice left in the Walmart and old girl bought them according to witnesses when she left Walmart this cat was on her to give up at least 1 bag and she wouldn't he grabbed the bag she dropped both and hit him at which time he pulled a pistol out of his right front pocket shot her once in the face and killed her...it was a .32 automatic....no information on their relationship status.


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    Now see, this is what I mean about mis-information being spread all over the place.

    Maybe we're thinking of 2 different stories but my aunt lives in Hattisburg.
    I heard that right after the hurricane when the place was in shambles a man shot his SISTER over a bag of ice in HATTIESBURG.
    I didn't hear anything about a woman being killed over ice in Natchez.

    Here's the story on it, but I heard it before it was put out:
    http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050901/NEWS01/312/1002



    If I were a betting man, I'd bet this same sort of misunderstanding was going on all over New Orleans.

    My cousin is a deputy sheriff in a Mississippi county and even HE confirmed that most of what they claim was bogus bullsh*t.
     
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    I wouldn't have believed it either except I happened to be in Natchez helping my Mama clean up our rental house that had wind and some water damage ...insurance still ain't ready to pay that claim...and on that day I happened to be walking up to the right side entrance of Walmart looking for ice for my Mama's house when this happened.....I was one of the witnesses....what I typed above (except the first sentence about 2 bags of ice being left in Walmart didn't know that until afterwards)was the exact report I gave to NPD the only part I left off was that dude ran and got into a 1978 Chrysler Cordoba (I knew it was a 78 because in 77 they had round headlights and the 78 had square headlights with two staked on each side ....) blue with white half vinyl top LA plates (wasn't sure of the tag number ) but I did see the St Aug High school bumpersticker on the left side of the rear window....it's funny because I had parked about 10 or so cars away from where he had left his car and we were parked way at the end of the lot...(he had to run a long way to get to that car man...) but at that point he headed south on Hwy 61...now if it wasn't for that I wouldn't believe it and would chalk it up to rumor ......

    so you see it's not always misunderstanding or conjecture....

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  10. Dual Karnayn

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    You were down there and should know more about what went on than me.

    I don't know if you have a link to the incident in Natchez, but I provided my link of what happened in Hattiesburg and my aunt confirmed it.


    As far as the child rape stories in the Superdome, check out this article:


    Rape and child murder in New Orleans


    In early September, media reports of the natural disaster caused by Hurricane Katrina were soon being spiced with graphic accounts of man-made horrors inside the Superdome and convention centre, where thousands of evacuees from the city were sheltering.


    The world media quoted one woman's claim that 'There is rapes going on here. Women cannot go to the bathroom without men. They are raping them and slitting their throats', and another's account of finding the body of a 14-year-old girl whom she said had been 'raped for four hours until she was dead. Another child, a seven-year-old boy, was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night'. The BBC News website reported how a National Guardsman at the Superdome had 'confirmed the brutal reality of life after Katrina: "We found a young girl raped and killed in the bathroom. Then the crowd got the man and they beat him to death."'


    The mayor of New Orleans went on national television to tell Oprah Winfrey that people had been 'in the frickin' Superdome for five days watching dead bodies, watching hooligans killing people, raping people'. New Orleans police chief Edwin P Compass III described tourists being preyed upon by criminals at the convention centre: 'They are beating, they are raping them in the streets.'


    Yet as the waters subsided, 'the reality of life after Katrina' appeared rather different. Crimes were committed in New Orleans and conditions inside the shelters had been unbearably grim. But police chief Compass now changed his tune about what had happened inside the Superdome and the convention centre, announcing that, 'We have no official reports to document any murder. Not one official report of rape or sexual assault'. Soon afterwards, he resigned. It turned out that, during the six days when the Superdome was used as a shelter, the head of the city police force's sex crimes unit had lived inside with his men. They 'chased down' every alleged incident, made two arrests for attempted sexual assault, and concluded that the rest had not happened.

    The American media has now launched its own inquest into how it managed wrongly to convict impoverished black evacuees of mass rape and murder. One senior New Orleans police officer says 'It's urban legend. You put 25,000 people under one roof, with no running water, no electricity and no information, stories get told'. True, but that doesn't explain why these stories were immediately reported everywhere as good coin. Or why they seem to have been re-told by senior officials.


    http://www.spiked-online.com/Articles/0000000CAE02.htm
     
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