Omowale Jabali : Just A Thought - Does Jesus approve of President Obama authorizing drone strikes?

[Omowale Jabali]

You can hate the sin but love the sinner.

I presume you're communicating drone strikes as sinful, so I don't see how this is a question. Of course some people like Obama. Some people liked Clinton. Some just like Democrats. Some like America period. Obama is the President of the Unites States which enslaved Black people for four hundred years, watched as they suffered Jim Crows and lynchings, aided Europe when it self-destructed, invests more in Israel than Africa (or just about), and maintains Black poverty at home and abroad. What do you expect him to do?

Should we have more sense than to not like America? Yes. But if we don't, what in the world is wrong with Obama? You have to realize that he's an intelligent Black man too. So if he's fooled into thinking he's doing the right thing, how can't you see others being similarly fooled?

Carter G. Woodson wasn't talking for nothing:

"No systematic effort toward change has been possible, for, taught the same economics, history, philosophy, literature and religion which have established the present code of morals, the Negro's mind has been brought under the control of his oppressor. The problem of holding the Negro down, therefore, is easily solved. When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his "proper place" and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary."

I mean, the question can go just as much to you. You claim that Muslims are the targets. The Muslims have enslaved us going back a thousand years and are still enslaving us in Africa. Why are you crying for your enslavers?

Marimba Ani said we didn't understand Carter G. Woodson. One of the most important quotations is the one above. Unless we're educating these people, how can we critique their actions? Take Obama's behavior as a lesson to why building schools and such are important. Don't drag religious figures down.

I understand that you are an Educator, but that's beside the point. Obama was largely educated by Europeans, ergo he'll behave as a European. That tells us to continue our Educational efforts; but it also shows what it means to so neglect it.

Since you did not quote me, or answer my question directly, instead choosing to raise numerous question mixed with whatever else you chose, I will leave your question open and address to points you made which appear to be criticisms, but they do not necessarily address what I actually stated.

For one, I did not state specifically that "Muslims are the targets" and that is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Secondly, I am not "crying" for "your enslavers".

Where in history can you prove that "your ancestors" were enslaved by Somalis?

I am not talking about so called Arabs, but African Muslims who are part of the Africans being targeted.

Do you even KNOW where your ancestors or from
And what religion or spiritual system their kinship group was initiated into?

 

[NyneElementz]

Genocide- deliberate and systematic destruction of a racial, political, or cultural group

and yes the bible was full of it.

The old testament was heavy with genocide and hatred from "god".

And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain. Deuteronomy 2:34
genocide
And we utterly destroyed them, ... utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.Deuteronomy 3:6
And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them. Deuteronomy 7:2
And thou shalt consume all the people which the LORD thy God shall deliver thee; thine eye shall have no pity upon them. Deuteronomy 7:16
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword. Deuteronomy 13:15
But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth. Deuteronomy 20:16-17
And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ***, with the edge of the sword. Joshua 6:21
So smote all the country ... he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the LORD God of Israel commanded. Joshua 10:40
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***. 1 Samuel 15:2-3

Sounds like genocide to me... sick sh** in that book, but still worth its value in entertainment...

Sorry, but you're wrong on that count too...

"Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee. - Deuteronomy 10:5

Those other scripture references were the results done for the same reasons. You forgot to mention that the bible is also full of God explaining THIS very point, that the nations of people were punished for the wickedness I described. And around the time of Exodus to Joshua, he was fulfilling a promise to Abraham, even after Abraham died. And the same things he did to other nations who stood against the children of Israel were also visited upon the rebellious of the Children of Israel - captivity, death, mass wipeout of those opposing his prophets, even destroying a whole family for the wickedness of one.

I understand you passion against genocide. I share it. But the very nature of genocide is to be partial against a group of people, not to apply such treatments equally to all. You also forgot to mention that the Bible was full of that also.

There was no hatred from God whatsoever towards the nations of people that were fought against. The hatred was directed for the things we know as sin, things God decreed as sins - things like nations burning their children on alters, homosexuality, beastiality, wanton killing, idolatry, etc. Those were also mentioned in the Bible. When the children of Israel were given to oppression, the main charge against them was idol worship. The Bible mentioned that a lot. But as far as hatred for a group of people without reason, there is no such mention of that in the Bible at all.

 

[Omowale Jabali]

Since you did not quote me, or answer my question directly, instead choosing to raise numerous question mixed with whatever else you chose, I will leave your question open and address to points you made which appear to be criticisms, but they do not necessarily address what I actually stated.

For one, I did not state specifically that "Muslims are the targets" and that is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Secondly, I am not "crying" for "your enslavers".

Where in history can you prove that "your ancestors" were enslaved by Somalis?

I am not talking about so called Arabs, but African Muslims who are part of the Africans being targeted.

Do you even KNOW where your ancestors or from
And what religion or spiritual system their kinship group was initiated into?

Furthermore, I asked a hypothetical question regarding JESUS, and you, AB Siblings, did not mention His name once, which means you did not answer the question I raised.

 

[Asomfwaa]

Since you did not quote me, or answer my question directly, instead choosing to raise numerous question mixed with whatever else you chose, I will leave your question open and address to points you made which appear to be criticisms, but they do not necessarily address what I actually stated.

How do you expect anyone to answer for Jesus? Ask Jesus, don't ask men.

For one, I did not state specifically that "Muslims are the targets" and that is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Your question prompt was drone strikes on believers of Jesus to which you distinguished Muslims as believers. Check what you wrote.

Secondly, I am not "crying" for "your enslavers".

So then why do you care?

Where in history can you prove that "your ancestors" were enslaved by Somalis?

It's not about "My ancestors." We have a race. Catch up with Brotherhood.

I am not talking about so called Arabs, but African Muslims who are part of the Africans being targeted.

Just above you wrote that it's an "erroneous assumption" that Muslims were being discussed, now look at what you write.

Do you even KNOW where your ancestors or from
And what religion or spiritual system their kinship group was initiated into?

You're asking all the wrong questions. How long was African history to you? You know about Migrations, so why are you asking me about it?

 

[Asomfwaa]

Furthermore, I asked a hypothetical question regarding JESUS, and you, AB Siblings, did not mention His name once, which means you did not answer the question I raised.

Of course, I'm not Jesus.

But I did mention the 'hint' that answers your question completely:

Jesus hates the Sin but loves the Sinner. Therefore, if you are reasoning that Drone Strikes are Sins then Jesus hates the Sin.

Aren't you one to 'give hints?'

As to me, I'm not going to speak for Jesus. None of us should.