Black Spirituality Religion : Jesus the Soul Saver

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  1. divinity

    divinity Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I find many christians believe Jesus as being the person to "save our souls", (intecessor, redeemer, "final lamb slain") based on the fortelling of his coming in the "Old" testament and the fulfillment of those prophecies in his time.......who do you think he was? Was he only a prophet? Who do you think the "Old" testaments prophecies refer to?
     
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    ifasehun Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I think that a "person" cant save our souls. lol Only God could do something like that.

    I recognize that only Jewish, European and Islamic cultures recognize the concept of sin - and that white and jews in particular maintain that we are "born into" sin - which would make us born in imbalance - a thought that ALL traditional Asian, Native American and Africans cultures reject. We wouldnt even consider the idea that we were made anything less than love and grace. We say we are "born in" Divinity.

    Exactly who and what Jesus was is of no consequence to me, as I am black and recognize that I like over 90% of all black people in the western hemispere am a descendent of West African people brought to the U.S. during slavery - and prior to that slavery experience we had our own traditions, our own religions and our relationships with God firmly in place - and Jesus had nothing to do with it.

    I also recognize that the White slaver owner introduced Jesus in the black psyche as a means of displacing our traditional beliefs because he felt Jesus was superior to our own beliefs and so that he could use his own cultural dictates to control us - i am interested in neither such attempts and enslaving me or my children.
     
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    divinity Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    your words are so strong to refute any truth in Jesus and on many of your other posts the possiblity of finding some truth in the bible.....why? Is God's will and way for people separated based on black, white, traditions, culture, region?

    So are you know saying Jesus was fictional, some character made up just to deceive blacks? Where did you find such information?
     
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    goraddy Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    No man named JESUS CHRIST EVER EXISTED
     
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    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    I believe in God the Father, Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth:

    And in Jesus Christ, his only begotten Son, our Lord:

    Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the Virgin Mary:

    Suffered under Pontius Pilate; was crucified, dead and buried

    The third day he rose again from the dead:

    He ascended into heaven, and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty:

    From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead:

    I believe in the Holy Ghost:

    The forgiveness of sins:

    And the life everlasting.

     
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    Nelson Ankh Banned MEMBER

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    Free Your Mind And Your *** Will Follow - Funkadelic


    Free your mind and your *** will follow
    The kingdom of heaven is within
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    The kingdom of heaven is within
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    And your *** will follow (and your *** will follow)
    I have never, never never
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    Have this given to me

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    ?
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    Well, I discovered that this life that was gettin' to me
    Is not really mine (Free your mind and your *** will follow)
    If it were mine, I would have fun all of the time
    I'm very disgruntled now
    Now, I want a way out, now
    I have to find a way
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    Free your mind and your *** will follow (x2)

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    Give it up and give it to me, baby

    I'm calling you love
    Love
    ?from my heart

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    The kingdom of heaven is within (are you satisfied?)
    (x4)
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    The kingdom of heaven is within (I Really care)
    The kingdom of heaven is within (x2)

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    I'm so confused about it all (x2)
    I'm so confused about the whole thing
    I don't understand
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    I can't feel me, I can't live me, I can't be me
    My mind, it does not belong to me
    I'm so confused (x2)
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    I can't hear myself calling for help
    I can't free my mind
    So my *** can't follow
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    I don't want to (x3)
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    I can't
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    The kingdom of heaven is within (x4)
    Free your mind and your *** will follow
     
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    cherryblossom Banned MEMBER

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    Romans 6: [23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
     
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    I believe jesus is a savior..... So yes I do see jesus as the doorway he claimed to be.
     
  9. Angela22

    Angela22 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You find many believe? Guess that's not a surprise. Many say they're Christian, but you actually need to hear them state their beliefs to know what that means. In any case, it's all just a title. One doesn't have to state they are Christian to be saved, but accept the Son as their Redeemer, their Savior, the One who died for our sins, and has salvaged us from fire and eternal condemnation. One must believe and be faithful, in all He has done, in His teachings, resurrection, miracles, and compassion, and know He was sent of the Father and now sit as His right Hand. One must know He inherits the Kingdam that will be shared to all faithful, and know He was more than a prophet, but the Holy Lamb, the Light, the Way. And so it's known; that's who I believe He is. ;)
     
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    You tell it, CherryB! :jumping:
     
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