Black Spirituality Religion : JESUS READ THE OLD TESTAMENT, THE ONLY BIBLE OF HIS TIME…

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  1. Aqil

    Aqil Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    According to the New Testament, Jesus had fasted forty days and nights in the desert or wilderness when the Devil unsuccessfully attempts to tempt him three times (Matthew 4:4,7,10)

    First, the Devil appeared to him during the middle of his fast, and said that it would prove he were the Son of God, if he would turn the nearby stones into bread. Jesus answered him and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ This is written in Deuteronomy 8:3.

    Secondly, he took Jesus to the top of the temple and urged him again to prove his divinity, that if he should jump, then surely God would send angels to prevent his fall. Jesus answered him and said, ‘It is written again, You shall not tempt the Lord your God.’ This is wrtten in Deuteronomy 6:16.

    Finally, the Devil took Jesus atop a mountain, showing him many lands and peoples, and promised him absolute power over all that he could see, if only he would bow down and worship him. Jesus answered him and said, It is written, You will worship the Lord your God, and you shall only serve Him.’ This is written in Deuteronomy 6:13.

    Jesus quotes from all five books of the Law, from two of the four major prophets, and five of the twelve minor prophets. He also quotes many Psalms. There are many more quotes from these books in Matthew, and still more in the other gospels.
     
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    Actually, during the time of Yeshuah (Jesus), there was no such book as the "Old Testament". There was the TORAH, and other books which now make up the "Old Testament" were COMPILED later.
     
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    Naam aqi. According to Wikipedia:

    The term "Old Testament" is a translation of the Latin Vetus Testamentum, which translates, "The Old Covenant" (or "Testament"). Some believe Christians came to call this group of books the "Old Testament" because of a belief taught in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and based on Jeremiah 31:31-34...that Jesus of Nazareth established a New Covenant or testament between God and mankind. This new covenant is said to be in contrast with the covenant made through Moses during the Exodus (Hebrews 8:9; Jeremiah 31:32).

    Books written after Jesus established this new covenant or testament are thus called the books of the new covenant/testament, or simply the New Testament. The earlier books are then called the books of the Old Testament in contrast. However, it should be kept in mind that the church father Tertullian invented this terminology, and the terms "testament" and "covenant" are actually unrelated. Also, not all Christians believe there is a contrast - first proposed by Marcion of Sinope - between the Old and New Testaments.

    Judaism accepts as Scripture the same books as those found in the Protestant Old Testament, though the ordering of the books in the Jewish Bible differs from that of the Protestant English Old Testament. However, because Judaism does not accept the books of the New Testament as Scripture, they do not label their Bible "the Old Testament." For Jews the books of the Protestant Old Testament are simply "the Bible." Since the books of the Jewish Bible were written primarily in Hebrew (with some Aramaic), the Bible of Judaism is also called "the Hebrew Bible." The term "Hebrew Bible" is a theologically neutral term as compared with "the Old Testament," which is distinctively Christian. Another Jewish term for the Jewish Bible/Old Testament is Tanakh, which is short for Torah, Nebi'im, and Ketubim, or "Law," "Prophets" and "Writings," the three major divisions of the Hebrew Bible.
     
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    Notice:

    Key words="group of books"
     
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    Intesting discussion....

    A lot of Muslims I meet from the East and even some in the West make the mistake of saying things like:

    The Old Testament is the Torah
    The New Tesatment is the Injeel
    We can eat Jewish and Christian food.


    I think this comes from inaccurate translations of the Koran into English.


    For example, as Muslims we must accept ALL of God's prophets as well as the books they brought. But we must understand that the first 5 books of the Old Testament aren't the books of Moses. Moses indeed had several books of which the Torah was one, but the Pentatuech wasn't from him but a compilation of books from Ezra and other scribes in Babylon.

    Jesus came with the Injeel translated as Gospel.
    But neither the New Testament...nor even the first 4 Gospels...are Injeel.

    I think the closest thing to the truth of what Jesus taught can be found in the Gospel of Barnabas.


    The Koran instucts us that we can eat the food of the Yahoodi, not the Jews.

    Some say they are the same, but I don't think so.
     
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    Nor are the Al-Nasara (followers of Issa who abstained from pork, prayed several times a day, and called God Allah).....the same as the Christians of today.
     
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    Of course it was the only Holy Scriptures of His time, for He was living what next would become apart of the Holy Doctrine. His sacrifice on the tree for our salvation and His resurrection from the dead on the 3rd day, as well as many of His Holy works and healing and parables and so forth needed to actually happen before they could be written and shared. And this is what we have a need of so that we know the Way to salvation. The Son needn't both the old and the new like us, for He didn't need saving, but we do. And now we have such salvation because of the Father's mercy and His great blessing of compassion when He sent His Son as a Holy Lamb for us all. One need only to believe, trust, and have faith with holy works, and know in hope, they shall be justified of the Son.
     
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    Don't you know that Jesus didn't need to read the Old Testament; because, he IS Jehovah. He quoted the Old Testament books so that those listening would have a witness and reference.
    It is by Jehovah that Heavenly Father created the earth and worlds; and, who later was born to Mary as a Redeemer from Death and Transgression of Laws. The Father is not Jehovah i.e. Christ. The Father and the Son are separate and distinct individuals. Heavenly Father is GOD and Lord to Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is a God and Lord sent to us from our Father, GOD. The New Covenant is mercy and forgiveness through the Atonement. The earlier books speak of Law and Justice which none of us could escape, being born to death and transgression; therefore, the need of a Great and Holy Savior, the Lamb of GOD.

    "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me." John 5: 45 - 47

    "He ( Jehovah ) is the Rock, his work is perfect" Deuteronomy 32: 2 - 4
    "For they drank of that spiritual rock that followed them ( Israel through the wilderness): and that Rock was Christ." 1 Corinthians 10: 1 - 4
     
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