Black Spirituality Religion : JESUS is GOD

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  1. Acts 16 31

    Acts 16 31 New Member MEMBER

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    Many of the previous objections to the Christian faith originate from
    lack of true Biblical understanding. If both the Old and New
    Testaments were read and studied within proper context, these questions
    would be answered to the objector's satisfaction.

    To get a more complete understanding of the scripture in question, it's
    suggested that more than a single verse be read; rather, read the
    chapters before, current (with questionable verse), and after. For
    example, if chapter X, verse Y is questioned, then for clearer
    contextual understanding, read (very carefully) all of chapters before,
    current, and after.

    Remember most religions compare themselves to the Christian Bible to
    prove their accuracy. They wouldn't consider replacing it as a
    reference of divine proof since many archaeologists have uncovered
    evidence justifying Biblical events. Further proof is reveled when the
    Bible is compared to other non-Biblical sources like that of Josephus
    IF READ IN CONTEXT!

    Consider these websites:

    http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q9_historical_proof_bible.html

    http://bibletools.org//index.cfm/fuseaction/Bible.show/sVerseID/1/eVerseID/1

    http://afgen.com/proof.html

    There was once a muslim who spoke to a Christian pastor. The pastor
    asked him what muslim's think about Jesus Christ? He answered that
    they respect Him. The pastor continued and asked him why was Jesus
    accused? The muslim replied that it was for sedition among the Romans
    and blasphemy of the Jewish faith. The pastor then asked, "What was
    His blasphemy?" The muslim answered that Jesus Christ claimed to be
    God! The Christian pastor then asked if Jesus who claimed to be God
    would be a prophet in the kurran? The muslim said that he would not be
    because he was a liar or a fraud.

    The Christian then posed this thought. If Jesus said He was God, you
    cannot simply respect Him! You must either revere Him, as the One who
    He actually said He was or reject Him as a fraud. You cannot MERELY
    respect Him for He could not be in the line of prophets. If He lied
    then He is not a prophet. And if He told the truth, He is God which is
    above and beyond all prophets! Therefore the kurran is wrong claiming
    Him as a mere prophet!

    --

    "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins,
    the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God,
    being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit"
    (1 Peter 3:18)
     
  2. mystic1974

    mystic1974 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Isn't this a thread for Islamic beliefs? Why are you in here?
     
  3. A007

    A007 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The only way a person can believe the bible is the word of God is...they read things into the bible that are not there AND/OR DENY things the errors and contradictions in the bible.

    The Jesus of the bible never claims to be God (in the bible) either... One has to read that into existance by conjecture.

    It is neither here nor there, however, because the bible is NOT the word of God.
     
  4. truetothecause

    truetothecause Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Oh Lawd!!!!!....here we go again...."jesus IS god" huh:?:

    Thanks for Sharing!

    M.E.
    :hearts2:
     
  5. oceolo

    oceolo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You keep saying that the bible has errors and contradictions ,but you never have been able to prove it . You have only been proven wrong.

    Actually Jesus said more than once he was God.

    John 4:25-26
    (25)The woman said, "I know that Messiah" (called Christ) "is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."

    (26)Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."

    John 11:21-27
    (21)"Lord," Martha said to Jesus, "if you had been here, my brother would not have died. (22)But I know that even now God will give you whatever you ask."

    (23)Jesus said to her, "Your brother will rise again."

    (24)Martha answered, "I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day."

    (25)Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; (26)and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"


    (27)"Yes, Lord," she told him, "I believe that you are the Christ, the Son of God, who was to come into the world."

    Matthew 26:62-66
    (62)Then the high priest stood up and said to Jesus, "Are you not going to answer? What is this testimony that these men are bringing against you?" (63)But Jesus remained silent.
    The high priest said to him, "I charge you under oath by the living God: Tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God."

    (64)"Yes, it is as you say," Jesus replied. "But I say to all of you: In the future you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."

    (65)Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has spoken blasphemy! Why do we need any more witnesses? Look, now you have heard the blasphemy. (66)What do you think?"
    "He is worthy of death," they answered.
     
  6. A007

    A007 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Is it your contention that there are NO ERRORS AND/OR CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE?

    And everything you just quoted from the bible has Jesus claiming to be the SON of God ...not God himself.
     
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    Here We Go

    As-Salaam Alaikum.
    Are you sure you want to have this conversation?
     
  8. oceolo

    oceolo Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    There are no errors or contradiction in the bible. I have proved that to you all ready.

    The son of God is God.

    God put his essence inside of the body of a man (Jesus).

    How can Jesus resurrect people and call himself the "truth and the light"f he weren't God?

    Why would he be accused of blasphemy if he wasn't saying he was God?

    John 10:31-33
    31Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, 32but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?"

    33"We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."

    Why would they say "because you, a mere man, claim to be God"if Jesus was not claiming to be God"?
     
  9. MRS. LADY

    MRS. LADY Banned MEMBER

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    :lol:

    for real tho!
     
  10. Knowledge Seed

    Knowledge Seed Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    The Bible doesn't contradict itself? hmm.........

    "If I [Jesus] bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." (John 5:31)

    "I [Jesus] am one that bear witness of myself..." (John 8:18)


    Just my 3 cents
     
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