Black People : Jailhouse FASHION?????

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  1. Sepialove

    Sepialove Active Member MEMBER

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    I came across a very distressing sight the other day while I was dropping my daughter off at class. She attends an elementary school that goes up to the 8th grade.

    In the hallway, I saw a young boy about 12 years old wearing an ORANGE jail jumpsuit that had the name "jail property" on the front breast pocket. He was showing it off to some of the young girls in the hallway like he was HOT STUFF! I just stood there in disbelief, not only because her school required uniforms be worn, but of the obvious glorification of being incarcerated. (The school recently merged with another local neighborhood school due to "cost effectiveness" and the crumbling conditions of the other school.) But what bothered me the most is when I asked someone about his attire, I was told that was the new "style". That supposedly there is a company that is selling this jumpsuit and it also is being worn by rappers in videos.

    Since when it is fashionable to go to jail or DRESS the part? Yes, I know of shows like "OZ" and "The Wire", but this is going too far! How can we teach our youth that jail isn't a "FAD"? That there are REAL life long consequences to their actions? I have long since stopped watching BET, so I was unfamiliar with this new disturbing "trend".

    What do you all think?
     
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    Words cannot sum this up, so I won't say much.

    Just think to youself:

    WHAT COMPANY CREATED THESE JUMPSUITS?
    WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE JUMPSUITS?
    WHERE DID THE IDEA THAT WEARING JUMPSUITS WAS A GOOD FASHION COME FROM?

    WHAT IN THE NAMES IS A 12 YEAR-OLD DOING WITH IT ON?
    WHO BOUGHT HIM THE JUMPSUIT?
    HOW DO HIS PARENTS LET HIM LEAVE THE HOUSE WITH IT ON?
    WHY WOULD THE SCHOOL ALLOW HIM THROUGH THE DOORS WITH IT ON?
    (THAT COULD RUIN THE SCHOOL'S IMAGE)

    AND BEFORE EVERYONE JUMPS ON ME ABOUT MAKING THIS A RACIAL THING:

    WHAT RACE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT DECIDED TO PUT THIS IN STORES?

    ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS, COMBINE YOUR ANSWERS INTO A PARAGRAPH, AND YOU HAVE YOUR UNLTIMATE ANSWER.

    Cedric Denson
     
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    That is deeply disturbing!
     
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    it has been going on for some time.

    watch the videos, the children do.
    the children are being taught that jail is a normal and acceptable part of life for a black person.

    the people doing the teaching are black rappers.

    if you criticize rappers, you get called names.
    if you criticize convicts, you get called manes.

    it is a choice.
    it is black despair and self destruction.
     
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    sad very sad i see it like James
    why do a child even have this crap and parents should know better
    what a shame Jail is not a home but a place to tame u
     
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    STATE PROPERTY FASHIONS

    Brother Cedric, before we go off jumping to the conclusion that White Folks have another conspiracy hatched against us, remember we are complicit accomplices in that conspiracy.... I've seen the advertisements for STATE PROPERTY fashions posted all over the subways in NYC, and it is positively disgusting that young African men would actually WANT to be the property of the state when our ancestors fought so hard to remove us from that distinction... Whew!

    And young folks want us to talk to them??? Well, I am talking NOW! State Property Fashions is Black-Owned, and we cannot excuse them for what they're doing by saying they don't know any better... They know better, they are businesspeople who are marketing these clothes to young and impressionable people who regard a trip to prison as a rite of passage - a sad fact, indeed... This is where we are as a people... I know that, the rest of us knows that, but we are too busy denying it... I am thankful the sister brought this topic to the board...

    We African Americans need to begin to discuss and dissect our own mentality instead of placing constant blame on forces outside of our community... FAct is, those forces outside of our communities don't give a **** about our accusations... Yes, they know, and we know, of their responsibility in our present state... So What, they are not going to cry crocodile tears over it... In fact, they are quite happy for us to be tricked and undecided, conquered and divided... That's exactly where they want us to be... It is our responsibility to make them "unhappy", and that will only happen once we've gone into effect mode to change our conditions... No more crime, no more violence, no more allowing them to exploit us economically, no more news stories about our pathology... That would make them really unhappy... When are we going to make these folk truly unhappy??? When are we going to stop being the Property Of The State of...?

    Peace!
    Isaiah
     
  7. bigtown

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    FIRST OF ALL, TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT PRISON LIFE. LET THEM KNOW THAT WHAT THE IDIOT RAPPERS ARE SHOWING THEM IS NOT REAL. THEN BURN HIS JUMPSUIT IF HE HAS ONE. IF THAT FAILS, GIVE HIM A SWIFT KICK IN THE @$$ UNTIL HE FINALLY LISTENS.

    THAT'S MY "BIG" OPINION.
     
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    I WAS WATCHING A "LIL WAYNE" MUSIC VIDEO THAT WAS SET IN A PRISON ENVIRONMENT. THE PRISON HAD MUSIC, DANCING, THEY WORE THEIR OWN CLOTHES, AND THEY EVEN HAD SOME HOT VIDI-HOES IN THE PRISON. I THOUGHT IT WAS DISGUSTING. WE HAVE BLACK ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE TOO [email protected] WIMPY TO TAKE ON THE RAP INDUSTRY. THAT IS THE ROOT OF THIS MENTALITY, AND WE NEED TO PUT THEM IN CHECK.


    THAT'S MY "BIG" OPINION.
     
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    It is very disturbing that this is a black owned company!!

    What's worse though is that this boys PARENTS bought the outfit for him. Kids clothes are expensive these kids arn't buying clothes without their parents money. Parents need to step up and do some parenting!
     
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    Thank you Brother Isaiah,

    Thank you also for giving me the actual name of the clothing line. In my research online, I have found out the ORIGINAL founder was Beanie Sigal, a well known rapper in the music industry. What is disturbing is his comments as to WHY he created this line.


    www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=1166 (Date: 9/3/2002)







    Just what our communities need, functional clothing for the drug dealer.

    This make me so angry that I wanna scream, cry and then go find him and smack some sense into him. I don't begrudge someone who wants to be an entrepreneur, however someone that knowingly makes a product or markets that product in an unhealthy and destructive way needs to be checked and STOPPED.

    His comments give credence to a sub culture that exists within the urban community. This sub culture is slowly eroding the foundations of freedom, health and education that we are desperately trying to restore.

    When young boys and girls see these "fashions" in videos, the underlying theme is that "going to jail is cool".

    What a sad message to give our children.
     
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