Black People : Issues concerning black folk (minus 'da white mane')

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  1. RAPTOR

    RAPTOR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Okay.

    I was motivated, by what was implied in another thread that we talk about 'da white mane' way too much with regard to the problems/issues we find ourselves in. So, lets start with (but not limited to) 6 "pressing issues", such as:


    "Unemployment rate
    Incarceration rate
    High School Drop-out Rate
    Fatherless homes
    Spread of STD's
    Murder/violence"

    Or, more. If some were to ask, "Are there serious problems in the black community"? In the affirmative, I or whomever could answer "yes" then we can roll out and that will be the end of it. Because no one (at least here on Destee.com) would disagree about how problematic those categories (to name a few) are in relation to our community.

    So lets talk about them (or any other issues one would like to bring to the fore).

    I'd like to put forth some questions regarding these pressing issues:

    Why do we find ourselves on the high-end of these negative categories (disproportionately, if we are to believe that statistical data)?

    If it's a moral issue, then what happened?

    NOTE: Let's keep yt out of it.

    If ever there was a time we weren't nearly as 'morally corrupt' as we appear to be today, how did we get to this point? Was it an instant change? Was it gradual?

    REMINDER: Let's keep yt out of it.

    If the 'family unit' was tight at any time in ourstory, then why did we 'loosen' up to
    virtually becoming 'untied'?

    For those who care to participate, lets not approach this like a multi-step math problem where at the end we get the answer wrong and leave at that, as if that was all that is needed. It is not helping us to merely state that the problem is wrong. So lets attempt to go a step or more further as to how and why we got it wrong.

    Again: Let's keep .... out of it.
     
  2. RAPTOR

    RAPTOR Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    That falls inline with some of the things I'd like for
    us to examine.

    So let me ask you: Why are we doing that at a
    relative alarming rate? If every the homicide
    rate was nearly as high, what happened that
    we see it at such an alarming rate these day?
    (no blaming yt)
     
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    i wish i knew. but im not one of the folks doing the killing. so i couldn't tell ya lol
     
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    Great post Raptor.

    I'll keep it sweet and short. It's really something to mediate on.

    Context is everything. That's like a man getting hit by a car and the cops say let's talk about the victim only and not the car that hit him. Or like a man asking me why am i sick and weak knowing that there is a big azzz parasite sucking my blood that he's ignoring. Pull that **** thing off of me, then we can talk about health and nutrition! So i'll keep it short and sweet. If you allow a group to take over your cultural economic markets( your shops, your stores, your bakeries, your gift shops, your clothing, your electronic stores etc) which helps that culture to sustain itself, the whole culture will collapse. You will see that culture ni**erized.
    The woman and men will lose their dignity, respect, when a culture looses all shame it's on it's way down the toilet. This is the case with any culture. No it's no surprise that we have all of these issues. That's what happens to a dominated culture. You get turned out.
     
  5. RAPTOR

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    Towards what you are saying (no blaming "parasites"):

    What lead to the virtual forfeiture of those things? Did we, as a people mysteriously lose interest in our "cultural economic markets"? Could it have do to... I don't know... fatigue? Did the ecological/geological landscape play a role?

    How did we "lose our dignity/respect"? Did it just role out of our pockets like loose change? Did we willfully give
    it up? Did we give it up/sell it as a means of survival? To make ends meet? Yt mane aside, how/why did this
    happen? What were we thinking? To have had all these great communal-qualities and perhaps suddenly give
    them up to a large extent.

    If we came from relative civil/well sustained societies with the necessary 'ingredients' to make it so. Did we lose that on our
    travel to the western hemi? Did the salt from the sea dissolve and wash away these 'ingredients'. Did the salt contaminate
    the 'ingredients'?

    Yt aside,
    Some thing(s) is wrong:

    A lot of single parent homes headed by mothers.
    A lot brothas are in prison.
    A lot our youth are dropping out of school.

    High-unemployment rate is high in our
    community. (What, all of a sudden more and
    more black people don't like working? They
    don't wanna work anymore? If there wasn't a
    time where that wasn't the case, then what
    happened? Why don't we wanna work anymore?
    We used to... right?)

    However my saying that doesn't really tell us much.

    (If there is a such thing a complete/value free objectivity,
    I am trying to achieve it. I'm open to advice coupled with
    examples, if I'm going about this wrong.)


    Hopefully some of the brothas/sistas who say we aren't 'looking
    in the mirror' enough (if at all), that 'we' blame yt for nearly everything
    could help us work this out. Hopefully do more than point to all the
    self-imposed stains on our collective 'shirt', but why we continue to
    stain up our shirt and why stained up our shirt in the first place?
     
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    Okay,

    When are you going to stop "killing" black folks?

    And if you don't mind my asking, how are
    you "killing" black folks?

    I'm just trying to get to the root of this

    "Time for a change of strategy", no?
     
  7. Khasm13

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    imho...there are 2 main reasons for our cultural issues....
    dilution and confusion....both of them work hand in hand....

    one love
    khasm
     
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    My opinion is the root of all these problems is not having property.

    Unemployment ... having to work hard to make someone else wealthy because of lack of property.
    Incarceration .... engaging in illegal activity to acquire money or stuff because of lack of property.
    Drop-out rate .... failure to link what one is learning to handling one's own personal business of managing their property.

    Having property engenders different behavior in an individual from one who lacks property.
     
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    peace

    Believe it or not, Swine plays a very significant role in our negative mental behaviors as well as the frustrations we feel when we can't operate at 100% or more due to some kind of illness which can also be attributed to pig consumption.

    Alcohol also plays an important role in our agressive behaviors. I know people that are cool as ish, both male and female until they get some of that 'ghetto juice' in them then all hell breaks loose. It's like you're looking at two totally different people. What they put in malt liquors and some of black people's favorites, like Hennessy should be investigated by the consumer because it will astound you what is being purposely done to the mind.

    In the hood, when a store receives a delivery of beverages and snacks you should check the dates and you find that some of them are already outdated and have been taken off of the shelves in white neighborhoods, then re-sold in the black and latino neighborhoods because they know we just buy things without ever checking to see if it's outdated or not.

    Our children are not crazy, they have been purposely made to appear crazy!!


    If you are what you eat/drink, then no wonder why our minds are DIS-EASED!
     
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    u might be on to something there brother....

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf...d-clemson-because-didn-t-chick-015506961.html

    one love
    khasm
     
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