Black Spirituality Religion : Islam teaches belief in the Bible (How can a Muslim not believe in the Bible?)

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  1. John Williams

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    Peace,

    "O ye who believe! Believe in Allah and His Messenger, and the scripture which He hath sent to His Messenger and the scripture which He sent to those before (him)..." Holy Qur'an 4:136, Yusuf Ali translation

    "(40)O Children of Israel! call to mind the (special) favour which I bestowed upon you...(41)And believe in what I reveal, confirming the revelation which is with you..." Holy Qur'an 2:40-41 Yusuf Ali translation

    These Scriptures tell us very plainly my beloved Brothers and Sisters that those who believe in Prophet Muhammad and Islam believe in the Bible.

    Peace & Brotherly Love,
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    The bible says all should believe in him, and accept him as lord, but you don't do it. You see, it's the same question, but only put to you.

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    Peace Bro. Enki,

    Well though I'm NOT a Muslim, I go by the Holy Qur'an which says:

    "Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and does good, they have their reward with their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve." Holy Qur'an 2:62, Maulana Muhammad Ali translation

    This Scripture says that we don't have to be a member of any religion to believe in Allah (God) & the Last Day. I do believe in Allah (God) & the Last Day, and, I do believe in Jesus just as all Muslims do (from Book 55 of the Sahih Bukhari hadith:

    (657)Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, surely (Jesus,) the son of Mary will soon descend amongst you and will judge mankind justly (as a Just Ruler); he will break the Cross and kill the pigs and there will be no Jizya (i.e. taxation taken from non Muslims). Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it, and a single prostration to Allah (in prayer) will be better than the whole world and whatever is in it."...)

    AND WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY THAT JESUS MUST BE TAKEN AS "LORD?" (not a rhetorical question.) I go by the Holy Qur'an which says:

    "They take their doctors of law and their monks for Lords besides Allah, and (also) the Messiah, son of Mary. And they were enjoined that they should serve one God only — there is no god but He. Be He glorified from what they set up (with Him)!" Holy Qur'an 9:31, Maulana Muhammad Ali translation

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    My question still stands, and is valid. The bible say you shall have no other god but god, but you "go by the Holy Qur'an". So why do you do this? You are questioning them concerning a choice they have made, I'm just doing the same.

    Sure, just as soon as you show me in my post where I used the word Jesus. But didn't you say that you study the bible?

    But I'll help you a bit, cuz I'm just that kind of guy.

    Read Romans 10:9 and Philippians 2:5,11

    Now, why is it you don't know this?

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    Peace

    How can you not be a Muslim, but go by the Qur'an?

    Somebody playing round he're.
     
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    theres a very simple reason why christians take jesus as there lord and it in no way goes against the command to serve only one god - surely you got to have heard of the trinity - jesus is god - god made flesh - thats why in john 8.57 and 58 he we read.....

    57 So the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."

    jesuss words here are either proff he was cuckoo crazy and nobody should ever listen to a word he said again - or if your a believer they can only mean he is god - only god could say i am as i am is the name of god - as somebody with way more smarts than me put it.....

    I am. That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense, instead of the past tense, from its being in answer to the Jews, who enquired whether he had seen Abraham, and from its being thus understood by the multitude, who were exasperated at it to such a degree that they took up stones to stone him. The ancient Jews not only believed that the Messiah was superior to and Lord of all the patriarchs, and even of angels, but that his celestial nature existed with God from whom it emanated, before the creation, and that the creation was effected by his ministry.
     
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    I really don't know what else you are saying besides NOTHING:(

    You are really dreaming or living in another world.... Do you know that what a person believe DETERMINES HOW THEY BEHAVE.
    Enough said.
     
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    In it's ORIGINAL form.

    Muslims respect and do believe in the previously revealed scriptures, the Bible and the Torah, but in their original form, not the current form, which is a mix of both; human and divine production.

    That is to say, NOT, for example, the KJV, which is viewed as "corrupted".
     
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