Science and Technology : Is "Thought" a Force? And does it Create Reality ?

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  1. Enki

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    This question of mine was prompted by an answer brutha Info gave to another brutha in a thread dealing with creation. In my job I deal with many different kinds of forces like moments,shear,point loads,etc. And all of these forces causes something to happen, you don't see the force,just it's effects.

    I copied this from a book I have on quantum physics , the author of this quote is unknown.

    Now what I inferred from brutha Info's answer was that creation came into being through thought. The big gang we know was a release of energy. I know from my work and education that "force" plus distance equals energy.

    So is there only one force, that creates different types of energy?

    Also:Thoughts come from your subconscious mind. IMO the thoughts we have are already existing "somewhere" in existence. Because all forms of energy already exist throughout all time and space. So if "Thought" is force(energy), and it created the universe, does it create our reality?

    It has to do with the question that if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there, does it still make a sound?

    I seek all opinion and views.

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    Force times distance is a calculation of energy. It is not energy in and of itself (it's an expression of the conservation of energy.) More, the "Force" in question isn't the same "Force" of the mind. It actually doesn't do the point justice to bring this equation into play, because the equation will lessen the potency of the force you wish to establish. I.e. you can use the calculation to discover the energy involved in thought, but in doing so, the results wouldn't be pleasing.

    True sages are those who give what they have, without meanness and without secret! -- KMT Proverb

    Remember this and you can see what's true and what's false. I do not understand the premise besides that you took the calculation of energy out of context. I.e. you misrepresented it as an energy in and of itself.

    I do wish that I could help. But another proverb is apt:

    To know means to record in one’s memory; but to understand means to blend with the thing and to assimilate it oneself. -- KMT Proverb

    You do not appear to have assimilated what you expressed. It also seems fundamentally wrong. Maybe you read something someone else wrote, thought it looked right, added some ideas to it, then tried to represent it, but you should go back to the source of those ideas and see whether you were meant to learn from them, the first quotation is your guide.

    I noticed that a lot of us learn ideas from "self-educated" types who wish that we become "self-educated." The issue is that we forget that True Sages do not wish for us to become self-educated, but are guides or educators themselves.

    I am uncertain but you seem to be referencing the Creation Story of KMT. If so, you might not have recalled the full story.
     
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    Yes,it's called a "moment" (statics)


    And this is the point I'm trying to see and understand. And you're right about the equation which results in torque. But if everything begins with a though, then can supplying the force be seen as an extension of the thought?


    I agree with this. I am using my experience in physics mixed with things I have read. And I am in a bit of a fog because I know what force is but I have a book understanding of it. I'm look for views that take me past my point of understanding.


    When it comes to quantum mechanics I am self taught. And in it; it shows how the materialistic reality we see is an illusion. And there are mystics that support this view.




    Yes I talking about that as the end result of though. I was also interested in "sound" because a I ran across this a few weeks ago.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...wT1PD_xKw&sig2=Mv2E-yu-ZglnKN4sC_cMRQ&cad=rja

    this is out of my realm which is why I'm seeking understanding.

    Peace bruh! And thanks for your input.
     
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    In my most humble opinion, yes thought is definately a force. A force in terms that it is something that can't be stopped. (on the other hand, some people practice no thinking through meditation, which I may add is very difficult for me personally to achieve.)

    I also think that not only is thought a force but it is definately a force to be reckoned with. Thoughts are spontaneous, quick and fast yet sometimes we capture thoughts and hold on to hem. The thougts we hold onto are those thoughts that for whatever reason, get our attention. Thoughts are connected to feelings so thoughts can be confusing and this is also why thoughts are a force to be reckoned with. So many people go around having thoughts of suicide, murder, hate, insecurity etc. However, this is the thing, a thought is just a thought and that is it. It can only become a reality if one lets the thought take over to the point that one begins to allow a thought to become an action which in turn becomes a reality. One can walk around and have thoughts about hurting people all day but if one does not act out that thought, the thought will remain just a thought that keeps messing with the individual that has those thoughts. Sometimes our thoughts are thoughts that we make ourselves have when we are challenging ourselves to have control over our actions and that situation can get pretty deep. It can become a situation where one is bringing ones self through ones own initiation phase.


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    The amount of energy in an atom is unimaginable, and I believe that if thought, can control something that small and powerful, the moment of creation is nothing. Our consciousness shapes and forms our reality like you mentioned in this post. There is a "commonality" (for lack of a better word) about the universe and there has to be a reason why.

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    I agree that there for sure has to be a reason why and I guess I should have said what I said in context. Thoughts come before reality and thoughts create reality but only if we act on making our thoughts a reality. If we don't act on the thoughts, thoughts will only be thoughts. Then there is the other context, thoughts we have about people, like some people believe that if another individual harbors fearful thoughts about those closest to them, those thoughts will manifest but I disagree. The example for what I previously said is the fearful mother who fears for her childrens safety so she worries that something out of her control will happen to them. Sometimes fear and fearful thoughts can become a reality but I don't think it is because of the thought, if that was the case, you could have a lot of power over me just by thinking on me and I could have the same power over you... For which I can do nothing to harm you unless you believe that I can. As usual, thoughts can get pretty deep and thoughts are never ending so this conversation could take many different turns, ups and downs etc.

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    Can thought create reality? I most certainly think that it can brother. I'm not only talking about acting out a thought you had, I'm talking about actually manipulating objects around you just by thinking about it. Harnessing this however, is a whole different story.
     
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    Interesting question because from the limited reading I have done related to this there is a phenomenon known as Thought Force.
     
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    Peace

    Interesting and fascinating topic I will say first and foremost brother Enki.

    Now on to my quoting this part of the post by Workinprocess. I will honestly say and will not try to come off at an expert so do not take my queries as antagonism but more as an attempt to understand. To get to the point I would think to suppress all thought would be death or a state of death as even to suppress thought you would actually have to think to hold that state. I don't know if that made any sense as I typed it, but I'd love to learn about the process that would lead to anyone with no thought. Even when you are "physically" asleep thought is present.

    Again, I am just trying to gain understanding of that concept.
     
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    Kaboom!! U just blew up the spot!
     
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