Black People : Is There Anything UnderGround - Private - With the NSA Monitoring All Lines of Communication?

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  1. Destee

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    Peace and Blessings Family,

    Is there anything underground, private, with the NSA monitoring all lines of communication?

    If you can still be underground, with the government monitoring, why be underground?

    What is the purpose of being underground, if the government knows all about it anyway?

    It seems going underground is to hide from someone, and if not the government, who?

    Who are those underground hiding from? People other than the government, that might derail their effort?

    Looking forward to the discussion and thanks in advance.

    Love Yall!

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    if you whisper directly into someone's ear they might not be able to pick it up…..
     
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    Can you build a successful underground effort by whispering in each person's ear?

    lol ... how many folk can just walk up on you Brother James ... and whisper in your ear ... ?? ... :lol: ... :rofl:

    oh gosh ... :)

    Love You!

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    :11100: any electronic communication can be monitored
     
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    That's how the slaves did it.
     
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    Underground organizing does not necessarily mean hiding from anyone. There are African secret societies that survived colonialism and the slave trade by organizing underground. That is one way that African traditions survived in the Lowcountry.

    There are organizations in our communities that were repressed in the 60s and 70s which survived and exist today because their members were FORCED underground.

    I can't tell you openly on the Internet who they are. But I know for sure some which do exist.
     
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    Exactly!
     
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    Black Nationalism, has no fear needs no fear, and has no reason to hide, in fact actually , would benefit from going viral on any and every snooped, watched, observed, and listened to venue!

    They the White Supremist oligarchy would love to hear someone discuss something violent, or dangerous, and if one checks the record the FBI has been known to encourage that!

    But talk about, work towards, plan and achieve what Malcolm is talking about here, and they start to pull their hair out in frustration,
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    because no laws are broken, and they hate that!


    This is something that should go viral as well, let them snoop, watch, peep, listen, examine the comode if they want, there is nothing to hide about keeping the Black family together and rebuilding our own communities, to be a better place for our childrens , and their children when they become adults

    NguzoSaba--600x763.jpg

    And the Nguzo Saba, are a set of principles, not an advertizement for Ron Karenga, or what he was about! We all know what Henry Ford was about, but Black folks don't need to follow that to use the autos he created!
    We use the auto as a tool for our needs without getting hung up about the nut that created it!
     
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    encryption is the key for example secure http protocol and the first peron to make an app where you can encyrpt your cell phone convo from end point to end point will be rich .
     
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    https://whispersystems.org/
    Open Whisper Systems >> Home
    whispersystems.org

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZRTP
    ZRTP - Wikipedia
    en.wikipedia.org

    https://silentcircle.com/

    Silent Circle | Secure Enterprise Communication Solutions Firm

    Silent Circle is a secure communications firm offering enterprise communications solutions including software, devices, and services.
    silentcircle.com


    The real problem will be whether or not you can trust a private/for-profit party to not fold under pressure from the government or be subject to any future U.S laws directed against regulating encryption even more.

    I really hope that this outrage against the latest smoking gun from the NSA really translates into people learning more about security, trust/threat modeling, encryption, and technology in general.
     
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