Black People Politics : Is the International Criminal Court (ICC) targeting ONLY African leaders?

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  1. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Both Kenyan Vice-President William Ruto (left) and President Uhuru Kenyatta (r) face war crime charges ​
    Despite massive pressure to stop the prosecution of Kenya's recently elected President, Uhuru Kenyatta, the International Criminal Court (ICC) today set a new date for the trial against the state leader. Mr Kenyatta is accused of crimes against humanity.​

    Today, the ICC set the new date of for the start-up of the trial of President Kenyatta. The trial is now scheduled to commence on 12 November this year.

    Originally, the international court had planned to start the criminal proceedings against the Kenyan President already in three weeks, on 9 July. But the defence lawyers of Mr Kenyatta had requested more time to prepare the trial and search for evidence.

    Mr Kenyatta is charged with five counts of crimes against humanity, "consisting of murder, deportation or forcible transfer, rape, persecution and other inhumane acts allegedly committed during the post-election violence in Kenya in 2007-2008," according to the court, based in The Hague. More than 1.000 persons died during the violent clashes.

    The continued efforts to charge the Kenyan leader by the ICC are however causing enhanced frustration in Kenya and other African countries. The ICC is increasingly seen as a court only targeting Africans, and by going after Mr Kenyatta, the court even is seen as destabilising the Kenyan democracy.

    While the Kenyan parliament originally had welcomed an ICC engagement in looking into the organisation of the election violence, this year's successful holding of a peaceful election have massively turned the public opinion. The ICC is seen as undermining the democratic choice made by the majority of Kenyans and the trial is increasingly seen as illegitimate.

    The Kenyan diplomacy has also been successful in convincing several other African countries that the proceedings against Mr Kenyatta should be dropped.





    http://www.afrol.com/articles/38286
     
  2. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    Every leader on the looong list of indictees by the ICC is (drumroll).... black.... despite 8,000 Muslim men and boys being systematically murdered during the war in Bosnia-Seregova. :news:
     
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    To answer your question, yes.
     
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    The ICC is being hypocritical. What about the Europeans who dragged our people from their homeland in Africa, where many died during the Middle Passage. The whole of Europe should be charged for crimes against humanity...(but then again white folks don't consider black folks as humans.) I am not condoning any wrong behaviour of the African leaders, but IF the ICC wants to be fair, they should set things in motion for reparations to be paid to all African peoples. This should be the first order of business for them. They are nothing but a group of white racists acting like they control the nations of the world. I am not impressed.
     
  5. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    The ICC didn't come into existence until 2002, therefore it wasn't around during the middle passage. It was NOT set up to prosecute African leaders (ostensibly). It is supposed to go after any national leader anywhere, and on any continent, who commits crimes of genocide, crimes against humanity and/or war crimes. This is why I raise the question of why aren't any white leaders on their list. The person that comes foremost to mind is Ratko Mladic, who ordered the murder of 8,000 Muslim men in Bosnia which even the United Nations has declared as the worst crime on European soil since the Second World War.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ladic-behind-Srebrenica-massacre-of-8000.html

    If this wasn't a clear case of a war crime (Bosnia-Seregova), I don't know what is. :10500:
     
  6. Alarm Clock

    Alarm Clock Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    OK but let's be honest! the ICC was created for sell outs, which means that enough people in state or in power , in the respective nation, must bring up the charges! Its not like some White man from outside of Africa is saying "lock that brother up!"
     
  7. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    The ICC was set up to prosecute leaders for genocide, war crimes, etc. Leaders from around the world, not just the African leaders they now prosecute. While some leaders have been turned into the court for indictment by their countrymen, it is not the ONLY way an individual may be indicted:

    Even the 4 NOT referred by their countrymen are all AFRICAN LEADERS. Africans are the ONLY people the ICC prosecutes! In addition to Ratlo who ordered the 8,000 Bosnian Muslims executed (the Bosnia-Seregova War was fought along religious lines), ISRAEL has been referred to the ICC, which, as with Ratlo, have refused to date to indict:

    This is my point - no matter that ANY WHITES commit genocide, war crimes, etc., they are NEVER prosecuted. Only Africans are prosecuted. As such, they ought to get rid of the damnable RACIST organization.
     
  8. Alarm Clock

    Alarm Clock Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    You miss the point! Why would any Black nation sign up and ratify to a White man's court that even the White man wont sign up and ratify to?? Hello! Hello!!!:jawdrop: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ICC_member_states.svg

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    States Parties
    Parties
    Signed but not ratified
    Neither signed nor acceded
     
  9. Kadijah

    Kadijah Banned MEMBER

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    THIS was "the point" YOU made:

    If you wish to add something new to the convo, do so. No need to "pretend" allegations you NEVER made! Scheesh!
     
  10. Alarm Clock

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    Well like I said, after 400 years of hell from the White man

    http://www.iccnow.org/documents/Africa_and_the_ICC.pdf

    why would any Black nation sign away
    their justice to the same people?? I dont bite my tongue!

     
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