African Traditional Religion : Is the cut side of the cowrie open or closed?

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  1. KMTSista

    KMTSista Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Is the cut side of the cowrie open or closed?
     
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    If you mean in divination, closed side is down and cut side is up (open)
    there's four cowrie divination (ancestors), a form of obi divination and merindinlogun, 16 cowrie divination.
    Osun, ore yeye o!
     
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    Ok, let me make sure i have this straight (I'm very visual, so bare with me LOL)

    This is open

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    and

    This is closed

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    As you can tell, I'm studying this
     
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    There are specific cowries used for divination. The first picture, the backs are broke out. No good. that is the down side II. The other side with the serrated opening is the up side I. The ones in the second pic are not used for divination. If you are doing obi divination, I prefer the obi (kola nut). but you can also use four pieces of coconut shell. The important thing is that you connect with your ancestors.
     
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    I'm not focusing on the types of correct cowrie shells to use. I know what the cowries look like and have had Ifa readings done before, but I can't remember which is open and which is closed. I cannot find pictures online of specific cowrie shells, so that's not what I'm asking about, I just used those for examples so I can decipher visually which is open and which is closed.

    What I'm asking is just the subject of which is "open" and "closed".

    So again, is the cut side one if laying up side open and the bottom one closed?
     
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    Sister, I already said? the side with the serrated opening is the up side

    The first picture, the backs are broke out. No good. that is the down side II. The other side with the serrated opening is the up side I

    can't be no clearer
     
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    no it wasn't clear to me because all I was asking was for a yes or a no, not an explanation on what types of shells to use. As I said, clearly, I just found a few pictures to show a cut shell, so I wanted to know if the cut side is the open on closed = a simple yes or no

    But thanks for your help :)
     
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    i gave you a simple yes or no the first time.
    "If you mean in divination, closed side is down and cut side is up (open)"
    Then you came back with the need for visualization and you had it backward.
    :10500:
     
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    yes and I explained that in order for me to get it clear I needed visuals, thats why i provided "visuals". Then you came back with explaining kola nuts and what types of shells to use. Probably should have used this link http://www.readersandrootworkers.org/index.php?title=Category:Obi_and_Diloggun_Divination

    Never mind Awo, this is turning into a Morris and Jerome moment LOL :court:
     
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    sorry, i didn't know i was only allowed to directly answer your question.
    sheesh
     
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