Black People Politics : Is The Black Vote Necessary To Win the US Presidency?

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Before these new Tactics like using drivers licenses, jail and felony charges to disenfranchise the Black vote.
There was the POLL TAX.

The Fifteenth Amendment (1870) provides that "[t]he right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude

That same amendment prohibits
TODAY using drivers licenses, jail and and felony charges from being a new law of disenfranchise-meant tactic illegal.

We never lost our right to vote, the 15th Amendment became meaningless. Mainly within the United States for Blacks to vote, by the POLL TAX. We couldn't afford to pay, so didn't vote and fell off the map.
We were Bamboozled again.


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poll_tax_(United_States)

The poll tax was sometimes used alone or together with a literacy qualification. In a kind of grandfather clause, North Carolina in 1900 exempted from the poll tax those men entitled to vote as of January 1, 1867. This excluded all blacks, who did not then have suffrage.

These laws, along with unfairly implemented literacy tests and extra-legal intimidation, achieved the desired effect of disenfranchising African-American and Native American voters, as well as poor whites.

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http://www.crf-usa.org/black-history-month/african-americans-and-the-15th-amendment

In 1867, Congress passed a law requiring the former Confederate states to include black male suffrage in their new state constitutions. Ironically, even though African American men began voting in the South after 1867, the majority of Northern states continued to deny them this basic right.

The Blacks

Only days after General Lee surrendered at Appomattox in April, 1865, black abolitionist Frederick Douglass spoke before the Massachusetts Anti-Slavery Society. In his speech, Douglass explained why the black man wanted the right to vote “in every state of the Union”:


It is said that we are ignorant; admit it. But if we know enough to be hung, we know enough to vote. If the Negro knows enough to pay taxes to support government, he knows enough to vote; taxation and representation should go together. If he knows enough to shoulder a musket and fight for the flag for the government, he knows enough to vote ....What I ask for the Negro is not benevolence, not pity, not sympathy, but simply justice.

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Victory, Then Tragedy

Despite Democratic opposition, the Republicans steadily won ratification victories throughout 1869. Ironically, it was a Southern state, Georgia that clinched the ratification of the 15th Amendment on February 2, 1870.

On March 30, President Grant officially proclaimed the 15th Amendment as part of the Constitution. Washington and many other American cities celebrated. More than 10,000 blacks paraded through Baltimore. In a speech on May 5, 1870, Frederick Douglass rejoiced. “What a country — fortunate in its institutions, in its 15th Amendment, in its future.”

The jubilation over victory did not last long. While Republicans acquired loyal black voters in the North, the South was an entirely different matter. The Ku Klux Klan and other violent racist groups intimidated black men who tried to vote, or who had voted, by burning their homes, churches and schools, even by resorting to murder.

When the election for president in 1876 ended with a dispute over electoral votes, the Republicans made a deal with the Southern Democrats. First, the Southerners agreed to support Republican candidate Rutherford B. Hayes for president. In turn, the Republicans promised to withdraw troops from the South and abandon federal enforcement of black’s rights, including the right to vote.

Within a few years, the Southern state governments required blacks to pay voting taxes, pass literacy tests and endure many other unfair restrictions on their right to vote. In Mississippi, 67 percent of the black adult men were registered to vote in 1867; by 1892 only 4 percent were registered. The political deal to secure Hayes as president rendered the 15th Amendment meaningless. Another 75 years passed before black voting rights were again enforced in the South.

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It's necessary for the more moderate or left of center parties to win (basically Democrats), and it's been the reason conservatives have been trying to go after the Black and Hispanic vote.

The last few exit polls for presidential elections show that most White people vote conservative. In 2008, McCain would've won if the entire election was just based on how White men and Women voted. Things get interesting when you add Black and Hispanic votes though.

Republicans are really starting to try to court the minority vote and they're really starting to invest in big data to help them win elections.

Two of the candidates for president are cuban-americans...0ne plus one equals two...
 

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Over the years I've heard that the Hispanic vote is necessary to win the US Presidency.

Does the same apply regarding the Black / African American vote?

Thanks in advance.

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Bernie and Hillary battle for black vote


Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton stepped up their fight to win over African-American voters on Wednesday, with the Vermont senator joining the Rev. Al Sharpton in New York and the former first lady planning to campaign with the mothers of Trayvon Martin and Eric Garner.


http://nypost.com/2016/02/11/bernie-and-hillary-battle-for-black-vote/

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Bernie Sanders and Hillary ClintonPhoto: EPA ; Getty Images



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