Black Spirituality Religion : Is The A God < Part One >

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    Have you ever sat down and wondered , is there '' Really '' A God ? This is a question that many people dare not ask due to fear . And when You do gain enough courage to ask , Your Imaams , Rabbis, Khohanes , Pastors , Shaykhs , Minister , Monsignor , Bishops , , Learn Men Clergymen . Andthe likes, All answer by saying '' Of Course , just LQQk around you . Can't you see the works of God ? Yet , when they say '' LQQk '' Around , '' they are talking about flowers and trees ; thing of '' Nature , '' But what about The Tornadoes , , And Earthquakes , And Floods And Hurricanes that are taking the lives of Millions Of People ? Aren't they '' Things Of Nature '' As Well ? What about the '' Big '' picture ? What about all of the things that are going on in the world once you step pass all the pretty flower ? You And The Reverend Both Know . that is not a reality and that you can't stand behind those flowers all day admiring its beauty .

    I say to these '' So-Called ministers of truth , Yes look at the world around us . it is in total chaos. Let's address the conditions of this world and why the world is in the bad state that it is in . With All Of Their Preaching , Khutbahs And Sermons From Friday To Sunday , Never once do they address the daily condotion of the world ; '' The Mistakes In Creation , The Misfits , The Deformed , And The Criminally Insane . Can You Please Explain To Me Why People Are Dying Every ?Why There Are Diseases Such As '' Ebols / Dengue Fever / Aids ( Acquired Immune Deficieney Syndrome ) , Cancer / Leukemia , Etc , Etc , There are more diseases than there are cures . Why ? Why are children born without Vital Organs ? And if they survive , they go on a list waiting for another child to die so that they can take their organ . This is a cruel process , Why are there wars which are usually over Religion Territory and power ? Why Is There such a thing as power , which leads to '' Corruption And Greed ? Why Won't The Creator Of All Of This Just Change All The Evils Of The World By Simply Waving The Same '' Hand '' That He Used To Create This World And Wrote The 10 Commandment With ( Exodus 34 ; 1 As People Of Religion Say ;... And I Could Go On And On With The Question That Your Teacher Will Never Answer . ( They Try To Stop You By Making You Feel GUILTY By Saying . ''' Don't Question God, Thats Blasphemy ! ''

    These are some of the questions '' Preacher / Rabbis / Kohanes / Teachers / And Imaams Don't Want You To Ask ;
    * Who Is God ?
    * Are the mansions in heaven that the righteous are to live in similars to those here on earth ( John 14 ; 2 )
    * Just exactly how were the sons of god able to conceive children with the daughters of men ( Genesis 6 ; 1 - 4 ) . Was the parting of The Red Sea A Miracle From God Or A Scientific Feat ? ( Exodus 14 ; 16 , 21 ) .
    * According to christianity , If Yashua / Jesus was destined to die at 33 years old . Why was he running for his life ?
    * If The Egyptians were so bad , why did God order Joseph to take Jesus And Mary To Egypt ?( Matthew 2 ; 13 ) .
    * Who were thepeople that Cain was afraid would kill him , If No One Else Was In The Planet Other Than His Mother , Father AndHimself ( Genesis 4 ; 14 ) .
    * Why would God defend Cain after he murdered his brother ( Genesis 4 ; 15 ) .
    * Why did God have to ask the devil of his whereabouts if he is The All-Knowing ? ( Job 1 ; 7 ) .
    * Who are the sons of God spoken about in ( Genesis 6; 2 and Genesis 6 ; 4 ) If Yashua / Jesus was the only Begotten Son Of God ( John 3 ; 16 )
    * Why is there a Surah ( Chapter ) in the Koran for Mary mother of Jesus andnot for Amina mother of Muhammad ? ( Quraan Chapter 19 ) .
    * Why is Allah allowing Muslims to be found guilty in christian courts in America ?
    * If God love the world so much why didn't he come himself instead of sending his only begotten son ? ( John 3 ; 16 ) .
    * If Jesus died for oursins , why are human still sinning ( 1Corinthians 15 ; 3 ) .
    * Does Allah not know that the moon does not conceal the sun ( Quraan 36 ; 40 ) .
    * Why Doesn't The Bible And The Quraan Explain All Of The New Scientific Findings Such As There Being A Scond Sun And Lost Planets ?

    These are just some of the many question that none of these religion namely Christianity . Judaism And Islam , Don't Want You To Ask . The Question Are Endless Because The Whole Christian , Islmaic , AndJudaic Faith , Doesn't Make Any Sense . They Want You To Totally Ignore Scientific And Archaeological Facts And Data, They Want You To Continue Following Them Blindly While New Planet Outside Of This Solar System Are Being Discovered Everyday And With Water , A Source Of Life . The bible and quraan are both over a thousand years old . The information that is in these two books were good for the people of that time . certian books of the bible such as Psalms and Proverbs are good for moral . However , when it come to science . The bible nor thequraan stand a chance . Islam is nice as a way of life . The Disciplines For The Uncivilzed And Dietary Laws For Glutton , Etc . Are Good . But It Stop There . The Reason Why The Bible And The Koran Are Able To Be Dissected Is Because Everything Is Left Unexplained . There Is No Logical Reason Of How Mary ( The Mother Of Jesus ) Conceived A Male Child All By Hereself According To Religion . There Is No Logical Reason Why Your God Had To Perform Magic Tricks To Win The Favor Of The Children Of Israel . There Is No Logical Reason Why The God Of Christianity And Of Islam Has To Threaten You With Hell And Tell His Followers To Kill People Who Oppose Him In Order For You To Have Faith / Belief In Him . Don't You See This Is Not God ? This Is Jimmy Swaggart !

    You mean to tell me that your God can't handle a regular person's questions ???? Well . that is exactly what you are sayin . And in that statement , You are also confessing that your God is not really the God that you have made him or her out to be . Which would lead back to another question ; If questioning God is wrong , Why does God allow the thought of the question to enter you mind ??? Why didn't He Or She Simply Make Everything So That We Wouldn't Have To Question His . Godliness ??? Needless to say . Your Reverends don't have any answers so they '' Blame The Devil . '' To the muslims , He is called Shaytaan , To the jews , He is called Hasatan . The christians call him Satan . The catholic call him Diablo , And the greek call him Satanas . So . If The Devil Is To Blame For All Of The Evils That Are Taking Place In The World . Then Those Natural Phenomenon's Such As Tornadoes . Hurricanes . Earhquakes , Avalanches And '' Wars / Drugs Use , And Diseases , That Are Taking The Lives Of Thousands . Are The Works Of The Devil ??? Or Are Your Saying That God Is In Control Of The Good Things Of Nature --The Flowers --And The Devil Is In Control Of The Bad Things Of Nature -- The Earthquakes -- Giving The Devil An Equal Amount Of Power As God ? And Remember According To You There Is None Equal To Your God .
     
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    More Questions for my Brother.


    Brother you have some legitimate questions here.You also make some valid points. To answer you initial question is there a God? Yes. There is a God. How do we know? The same way we know we have a mind. We can't see our mind or feel it or smell or taste our mind. Nor can we hear our mind. We can only see our mind working. The way we see God working. God say the world is passing away so when people die from nature disaster it is God keeping his word. Is death so bad? It's horrible if you believe that the life we have is as good as it gets. But for the believer death is the end of our physical existance. The spirit and the soul live on. Science is the study of the physical world. With all of mans so called science and technology why can't we triumph over the smallest things like the cold virus or HIV? Why can't we cure cancer? Why can't we travel the speed of light? Why can't we create human beings from the elements that we are composed of? Why can an animal with a brain the size of a walnut fly with great ease but can explain why it is able to do so? Why can't archaeology explain the missing link between the Neanderthal and Man? If matter can't be created nor destroyed where did it come from? Why can't we live forever the way we are? Why can't we rise the dead? Why can't we stop the aging process? These are questions man's science can't answer but God has. What I have been preaching is for everyone is develop their spiritual self. If you don't believe you have a spirit than you are already dead waiting to be buried. As for spooks, ghost and apparations this is what controls the nonbeliever. The truth is we are God's crowning glory of all creation. We are made holy but have fallen. God does not force us to be obedient. He prefers we chose him freely. Why do we invest in things that is perishing or already dead? That like taking your entire pay check and playing the state lottery. When one has a developed spirit they can be blind and still see, be deaf and still hear the voice of God, be mute and still speak to God, be in a coma but still feel God in his heart and have no tongue but still quench his thirst with the cool water of God. So if it can't be proven it doesn't exist or didn't happen is what you are saying? Then where did we come from? Prove it!
    Peace

    Radical Faith
     
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    If God So Loved The World , Why Didn't He Come Down Himself , Would

    If God So Loved The World , Why Didn't He Come Down Himself , Wouldn't That Be The Ultimate Love And Not Send Somebody Else ?
    If you ask that , the preacher , or leanders would say '' This Man Is A Blasphemer '' . '' Get this man out of here ' Why ? Because you're not supposed to question their god , with thing that make sense . or things that fall '' Under Common Sense '' LQQk at it again , God So Loved The World That He Sent His Son To Die ? ( Shouldn't It Be , God So Loved The World That He Came Himself ) ? < And when the christian realized that type of reasoning was in '' Existence '' , They said'' well we got to turn '' The Son Into God '' . That how Yashua / Jesus became God, The Father , The Son And The Holy Ghost . < The first teaching was that Yashua / Jesus was A Son Of God . That in the bible . ( Matthew 16 ;28) After he was gone he was '' Transformed From The Son Of God To God
    ( 2Timothy 3 ; 16 ) . They knew somewhere along the line , There was going to be some people who would say , Well if there was danger downstairs I would tell my wife and child . Wait A Minute I'm The Man . I'll Go Downstairs . If I'm In The Image Of God And That's How A God Would Think Because I'm In His Image And His Likeness Then God Would Have Thought That Way ( Genesis 1 ; 26 - 27 ) .


    I would not be laying in the bed saying , Here's my son , You go down there and let them crucify you . And then come back up here and sit next to me on my right hand side . That's not my kindof god . Thats somebody else's kind of god . You Know What I'm Saying ? The Son Of God called Yashua / Jesus died so that you can be save ( John 3 ; 16 - 17 ) . People were confused about what else they should be doing after he died to go to a prepared place that Yashua / Jesus spoke about in
    ( John 14 ; 2 ) . He becomes even more confusing nowadays because in The Books Of Matthew . Luke , And Mark . They all record something different about how to receive this salvation . If you are believeing according to the bible , No one knows what must you do in order to besave ?So in other word , '' Faith alone is required which issupported by
    John 3 ; 15 18 , However , there areother verse which tell a different story . This is obviously a big problem amongst christians because whole denominations have split over these bible contradictions. ( Mark 16;16 ) Says That Baptism Is Necessary For Salvation . This verse implies that
    '' Faith '' is a requirement or else you will be '' Damned '' . Thus , this Raises , the question ; is '' Faith '' alone required or is it '' Faith '' plus Baptism ? Churches are divided on this question , Expecially when considering infants and children who die before being Baptized . The concept of '' Limbo '' . Was Invented while they were trying to resolve this contradiction . They Weren't Sure Whether Children Were To Go To Heaven Or Hell . Some bible verse such as James 2 ; 14 - 15 , says that '' Works '' are required for salvation .


    And according to your definition and opinion , The term '' Work '' can mean anything from good deeds towards other , following the laws of the bible and / or the fear of god .Some so-called scholars interpret this passage to mean that Faith and work are both required , or that '' Faith Automatically Produces Works . Others imterpret it to mean that '' Works along are required . WHO'S RIGHT ''WHO'S WRONG ??? Because there are other verse such as ( Galatians 2 ; 16 , 3 ; 5 , Hebrews 6 ; 1 And James 2 ; 17 ) . That state work and faith are both necessary and enough for salvation and they don't mention faith . All Of These Verse Are From The Red Lettred Writing Of Your Bible Which You Claim Were The Actual Works Of Jesus The Christ . ( CAN FAITH PLUS WORKS SAVE YOU ? CAN WORKS ALONE SAVE YOU ? ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE AND NOT YOUR OPINIONS , WHICH ONE OR TWO OR THREE OF THESE QUALIFY YOU TO GET TO PARADISE ?


    Now according to ( Ephesian 1 ; 4 - 6 and Revelation 17; 8 ) . Each of us was ( Predestined For Either Heaven Or Hell '' Before The Foundation Of The World . ) This means that no one can be save unless their salvation was Established from the beginning . ( If Blief Is Required For Salvation )
    Then only those predestined for Salvation are able to believe ( Acts 13; 48 , 2Thessalonians 2 ; 13 - 14 ) . ( If obedience Is Required For Salvation ) . Then only those predestined for salvation are able to obey .
    ( 1Peter 1 ;2 , 2 ; 7 - 8 ) . < These Quotes All State Or Clearly Imply That God Premeditated Or Predestined Your Salvation And Damnation Long Before Any Of Your Were Even Born .


    So according to the very scriptures that you believe in , You can't be or do anything other than what you are predestined to be or do . This is telling the criminal who is socaled '' Born Again '' That no matter how many times he is Baptized , He can not be reformed . According to
    ( John 6 ; 44 , John 6 ;65 , Roman 9 ; 14 - 16 And Psalm 65 ; 4 ) . Salvation depends on God's decision and can save someone anytime he likes . And you wonder why christianity is divided into so many sects . And no one knows where they are destined to go . These Scriptures are inconsistent and they contradict each other over and over again . The one thing that they or You should agree on is what their god or the son of god says.
     
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    Why Did Yashua / Jesus Have To Run From The Jews ?

    Hummm that's a good question m Why did Yashua / Jesusrun from the jews ( John 8 ; 57 - 59 ) ? If Yashua / Jesus was divine from the moment he was born , then '' Herod '' would not have made a threat to hislife ,
    ( Matthew 2 ; 1 - 4 ) . Joseph and Mary would not have to flee with the child into '' Egypt '' ( Matthew 2 ;13 ) . And the may lives of every male child that was two years andunder would not have been lost , trying to kill Yashua / Jesus because he was a threat to '' Herod's throne ..
    ( Luke 1 ; 23 - 38 ) . If Yashua / Jesus was to die on the cross at the age of 33 years old they couldn't kill him as a child , So they wouldn't have had to flee . Why was he trembling and astonished praying to God
    ( Acts 9 ;6 ) and in ( Matthew 26 ; 39 ) . In agony praying more earnestly and his sweat like great drops of blood falling ( Luke 22 ; 44 ) ?

    Was it in hopes to get God to change hismind through his prayers ? The cup that Jesuswas referring to was the crucifixion . If Jesus was destined to die at the age 33 why didhe hide himself ( John 12 ;36 ) . Why didn't Mary Magdalene , Who according to christian doctrine Jesuscast 7 demons out of her ( Luke 8 ;2 ) . Think that Jesus was the Gardener .


    How could she not have recognized the same man that cast 7 demons out of her ? Jesus obviously was in some kind of disguise ( John 20 ; 15 -17 ) . Why did Jesus have to disguise himself ? Did he think he could escape the destiny of his father , The Almighty God . Who had planned this for him ? Why did Jesus tell his disciple to my swords to defend themselves from the Sanhedris, If he was suppose to die on the cross for your sins at the age of 33 years old ( Luke 22 ; 36 ) . Jesus knew that alot of people wanted him dead , Because it was thought that he was a false Prophet .


    Jesus told his disciple to buy swords because he was afraid and didn't want to die a horrifying death of crucifixion Jesus really thought he was going to die and had all intention of fighting for his life with the swords . . ( Why did he buy swords if he was suppose to die on the cross ? And why was Jesus even Depressed if he knew he wasgoing to die ? He said that he came to do the will of The Father ? John 5; 30 . So , if his father's will was that he die on the cross . Then why did Jesus pray to be saved from his father's will ? This makes no sense at all !!


    Mark 14;34 . And I Quote , And Said Unto Them ( My Soul Is Exceeding Sorrowful Unto Death ) ; Tarry Ye Here Are Watch ''
    Andif you try say Jesus did all of this because the time was not right . He still wouldn't have to do all that because no one could have been a threat to his life if God said he was suppose to die on the cross at 33 years old meaning no one could have killed him up until he was 33 years old . If it was God will . No one would have been able to interfere .


    These are the types of Question that went unanswered for years . Until now , You can't keep believing in the Spook Gods of christianity / judaism / and islam . The three major religion of the world that preach by making '' Stupid Sense '' out of everything , And thespell bound accepts it with No Question Asked . Christian want you to believe that Jesusdied to remove sin from the world . If this is truethen he didn't accomplish it because after his so-caled death , people were still Sinning . And it hasn't stopped . The World Is Still Sinning . And if the purpose for '' Baptism Of Repentance Is For The Remission Of Sin '' As It Is Syated In Mark 1 ;4 And Jesus was Baptized by his cousin John The Baptist in the jordan river then does that mean that Jesus is a Sinner To ? Because The Greek Word Used For Remission Is '' Afesis '' meaning '' Forgiveness Deliverance . Liberty '' So does this also mean that Jesus needed to be forgiven for something that hedid wrong ??? According To Some Christian . Jesus Was God Himself Which Means That Your God Capable Of Sinning .
     
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    Was The Crucifixion Story Of Yashua Made Up ?

    Yes . the crucifixion story is a fabrication of the story of another crucifixion . The story of the crucifixion is really the story of King David who himself was a messiah . Even though he was crucified he did not die on the cross . So , the crucifixion story was not of Jesus it was taken from The Psalms of David . If You go back to the book of ( Psalm 22; 1 , 16 ; 71 ; 18, 20-22 ) and compare these quotes to the accounts of the so-called crucifixion in ( Mark 15 ; 34 and Matthew 27 ; 46 ) , You will see the similarities and see where the christians got the crucifixion story from and what is really sad is that people are walking around believing in this book whole - heartedly . ( Psalm 22 ; 1 and Mark 15 ;34 ) .


    It is the same declaration , Same story line , Just different names , And to think this is supposed to be about Jesus Christ , The Son Of God Being Nailed Up On The Cross . To die for your sins and yells out '' My God , My God Why Have Thou Forsaken Me ? '' It is understandable if it were just David saying this because according to religion he was a mere mortal . But not Jesus , He was the son of God and in some cases , God himself . It is suppose to be a Unique Line because the new translation of . '' God So Love The World That He Sent His '' Only '' . They Replave '' Only '' With '' Unique '' In THE NEW BIBLE '' It says Jesus was Unique in everything he said and did . Which made him God . They're saying . Right there ; That Jesus was suppose to be on the cross . This here says Psalms of David . So they were Written by certain ministers or priests for a Song ( Psalm ) and about David .


    If you read on in ( Psalm Chapter ) They describe the crucifixion as casting lots for his garment . The nails in his hand and feet . Stabbing him in the side and giving him bitter water to drink . That's your bible story , but take that to church and you become an Anti - christian ..
    ( Which Is Christian Spelled Backward = Anti -Christian ) . Take the truth to the church and you become a Blasphemer when it is obvious that the Entire crucifixion story as well as the other stories of the new testament were just a bunch of plahiarized ideal from The Book Of Psalm Rewritten as a play . That's why you have Acts As All Plays Do .


    All you haveto do is read The Four Gosples Or ( Ghost Spell ) of Matthew / Mark / Luke / John . And there you will find your Conflicting Stories . All of them give some kind of account of Jesus life however , Oneis a little more Dramatic than others . One may have something that the other doesn't . and it goes on and on . If you go right to the book of Matthew he tries to prove that nearly every event in Jesus life was fortold in the old testament and thus that is his evidence that jesus was the messiah .


    He just uses excerpts from the old testament that are so mysterious that they mean just about anything . Matthew intentionally alters some of the scriptures , Changes word , Capitalizing a letter there -- to make them prove his point . Take for instance . The so-called '' Immanuel '' Prophecy
    Matthew mentions the book of Isaiah's '' Immanuel '' Prophecy Isaiah 7 ; 14 - 17 , As proof that Jesus is the messiah -- even though Isaiah didn't claim that Immanuel would be a messiah . The deception begins when Matthew changes Isiah's Word From ....
    Isaiah 7; 14 And I QUOTE , Therefore The Lord ( Yahweh ) Himself Shall Give You A Sign ; ( Behold A Virgin Shall Conceive And Bear A Son , And Shall Call His Name Immanuel ) .
    Meaning The Mother Of The Child Will Call His Name Immanuel To ...
    Matthew 1 ; 23 And I Quote , Behold A Virgin Shall Be With Child And Shall Bring Forth A Son ( And They Shall Call His Name Emmanuel ) Which Being Interpreted Is God With Us ''


    That's how it starts. thy might add a word here , Change a word there . Which leaves open the possibility that Immmanuel's name could actually be something Else - Like Jesus which is what '' They '' call him . '' Jesus '' 2verse later in Matthew 1 ; 25 . Thus . another question Arises , Although Jesus which christians say means '' Savior '' is the distorted greek way of saying the proper Hebrew name Joshua or Yashua which means '' Yahweh Is Salvation '' If the prophesied messiah's name was supposed to be Immanuel . The why did they disobey their Lord and name him Jesus ?


    Immanuel was the son of Isaiah And Majia and although he had a few similarities with Yashua or Jesus as he is called in the new testament . They were born in two different Eras of time and . The Immanuel of the book of Isaiah couldn't have been prophecy of Jesus because the Immanuel son of Isaiah would have been that expected messiah to come Do You OverStand ? Immanuel was '' A '' messiah of his time because he was sent to deliver the house of David from the rulers of Syria and Israel
    ( Isaiah 7 ; 1 - 13 ) .


    ( Immaniel Son Of Isaiah And Majia ) , If you read a little further you will see that it was propesied that this person named Immanuel shall ;
    ( Immanuel )
    * Eat butter and honey ( Isaiah 7; 15 )
    * Know to refuse evil and chosse good ( Isaiah 7; 15 )
    * Shave his beard ( Isaiah 7;20 )
    * Live in an area ruled by kings ( Isaiah 7 ; 1 - 20 )
    * Devliver the house of David ( Isaiah 7 ;1 - 13 )

    ( Yashua / Jesus )
    *Ate Meat ( Luke 24 ; 41 - 42 )
    * Waxe strong ; until his mission was shown unto him ( Luke 1;80 )
    * Was prophibited from shaving his ( Revelation 1 ;14 )
    * Was sent unto the lost sheep of the house of israel ( John 16 ; 6 , Matthew 15; 22-24 ) but fail to deliver them .
    ( As You Can See . Yashua / Jesus Was Not Immanuel ! )


    Matthew makes an even worst Corruption of the old testament when he claims that the thirty pieces of siler paid to Judas was predicted in the writeings of Jeremiah . Jeremiah wrote nothing of the sort Matthew 27;9 .Zechariah was the one who happened to mention thirty pieces of silver in Zechariah 11 ; 12 - 13 , Matthew apparently remember the passage but couldn't remember who wrote . ( Zechariah 11 ; 12-13 Now Read Matthew 27 ; 9 - 10 ) , And the phrase '' Thirty Pieces Of Silver '' is mentioned only 5 times in the Entire bible and that is in the book of Zechariah and the book of Matthew . Is This A Conincidence I Don't Think So LQQk in Zechariah 11 ; 12, 11 ; 13 , Matthew 26 ; 15 , 27;3 , 27 ; 9 .
     
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    Is There Such Thing As God ?

    The real '' Eli ( God ) or real Eloheem are not the wimps . Don't misinterpret me . The real Abraham ( Called Abraham ) is not the mixed up story . I'm saying a concentrated effort was set out to confuse the stories that don't go back before 2,000 To 10,000 Years . Its not about '' A '' God or '' One '' God . These are many beings or God that are being talked about the word Eloheem as it is used in Genesis 1;1 the hebrew . Means '' These Beings Or One Of Them Named Yahweh '' Which means there was more than one God being spoken about in the bible . Eloheem is simply a plural of the word '' Eloh '' And All Eloheem are Elohs . Any of these Eloh or Eloheem can be a Yahweh


    So What Stories Am I Talking About ?
    I am talking about the stories that were written in your bible and quraan , Both of these so-called holy books that you hold in your hand today . Were Plagiarized and take from Ancient Tablets Such As The '' Enuma Elish , As A Guide for you by Tammuz , The Eloheem assigned to you . It was originally the Torah . Then human came up with the New Testament and then the Quraan . each was getting further and further away from the truth and what was originally written . Then once '' The Spell Of Kingu called Leviathan , The Spell Of Sleep . was cast by '' Zuen '' . Also known as '' Shakhar ( Who You Are Calling the devil ) . 6.000 Years ago . The text was Manipulated and used to help enforce the spell of kings .
    Thus , The Scriptures that you hold in you hand today . Are not divinely inspired . They have been tampered with and you would be a fool to swear by it . The Old Testament Contradicts itself and the New Testament and The Quraan Vice Versa ,


    Right now , Your so-called Scholars are debating whether or not they should '' Re - New The New Testament , The Dead Sea Scroll were discovered in 1947 A.D. A Young Shepherd Found Several Clay Jars In Cave In Qumran Which Is Located In The Judean Desert . Near The Dead Sea . The Scrolls Are Kept In A Secret Vault In The Vatican . For 51 Years . The Scrolls Were Not Made Public Because '' Scholars '' Including The Pope , Felt That People Were Not Ready For Them . In Other Words . They Don't The Public To Know What Was Really Written Because It Would Uproot The Very Foundation That They Are Standing On Today .


    The Atlanta Journal - Constitution , April 7 , 1996 A.D. '' A New LQQk At The Good Book '' . Articles are popping Up Everywhere About The Bible And People Are Beginning To Question The Very Authenticity Of The Book They Bsse Their Entire Life And Future On . This Is Something That I Have Been You For While Now . ( U.S, New , April 8 , 1996 A.D. '' In Search Of Jesus Also Time Magazine April 8 , 1996 A.D . '' The Search For Jesus ) . While We On The Subject Of '' The Search Of Jesus '' . I Would Like To Also Point Out That Black Churches Are Now Just Starting To Make An Effort To Make An Image Of A Black Jesus . However , All Of These So-called Black Church Are Going To Be At War Soon As To Whose Drawing Of Jesus Is More Like To Be Or Represent Him ?
    ( Time Magazine , December 18,1995 A.D. '' Is The Bible Fact Or Fiction ) .


    BECAUSE YOUR WEREN'T CHRISTIANS BACK IN AFRICA AND ACCORDING TO YOU OWN TEACHING CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES BROUGHT THE RELIGION TO AFRICA AND THAT INCLUDES ETHIOPIA . AND IF IT WAS OUR NATURAL RELIGION IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE WITH US . NOBODY WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT TO US . JESUS WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BORN IN THE MIDDLE EAST . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN AFRICA IF HE WAS A GOD FOR AFICANS . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN BORN IN AUSTRALIA IF HE WAS A GOD FOR THE AUSTRALIANS . HE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN CHINA IF HE WAS A GOD FOR CHINESE . DO YOU THE POINT ?


    Reverend George Augustus Stallings , Jr Used Matthew 1;1-17 To Support His Claim , Which Is Wrong . (Bishop Promotes Rise Of Black Jesus ) . These black christian leader think that after 2,000 years they can just pain him black and that it is alright . After these ' Subliminal Pictures Of A Europen Jesus Has Been Stamped In The Minds Of Children You'd Have To Make This A Full Time Effort To Explain What Jesus LQQked Like And All Of You Would Have To Agree On One Story And One Picture . And This Doesn't Help . It Doesn't Help Because It Doesn't Do Anything But Confuse The Children . ( Now They Are Fprce To Say '' LQQk Mommy A Black Jesus ) And That Is Because In Their Sun-Conscious Mind Jesus Is A European .



    It Is The Same As A Black Santa Claus . The Color Doesn't Help The Situation By The Mere Fact That The Story Itself Can't Be Proven As Real Or Whether There Was A Man Named Jesus The Christ Who Walked The Planet Earth . Just By Virtue Of The Fact That You Have To Say Santa Is Black Is A Confession That You Think That He Is Europen . And The Only Reason You Have To Say Black Jesus Is Because It Means That In The Sub-Conscious Mind You Have Already Accepted That Jesus Is A Europen



    When most of these ministers were calling Jesus Black , They were in their ministry studying or being raised as ministers or son anddaughter of ministers , The Jesus that they worshipped was the jewish Jesus with European features . This was Stamped in their Sub-Conscious minds . They accepted it . They believe it . They taught . And they even worshipped this European image . Yet now after the black rage of the 60's '' Say It Loud I'm Black And I'm Proud '' . They want to pretend blackness while most of them belong to European Dioceses or European ministeries , Now They want to confuse children with this new black face of Jesus and they can't even get together on what its coming to be . LQQk at the many different Pictures Out There .



    I also told you that Jesus did not resurrect because there wasn't A Crucifixion . I wrote a thread proving that Jesus was not crucified or resurrected , and the many contradictions surrounding it . Between ..
    ( Matthew 28;1 , Mark 16;14 , Luke 24;10 and John 20;1 ) . They coundn't decide who went to Jesus's supposed tomb . Needless to say , People called me crazy Etc. ( Newsweek , April 8, 1996 A.D. '' Re-thinking The Resurrection ''
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    Where is your God?

    There are some who say the God of the Christians, Jews and Muslims is the God given to them by slave masters and con artists for the purpose of control and power. Well here is a series of questions I like to call " where was your god"? When was your god when Napolean came and defaced your momuments? Where was your god the European explorers pilledged your tombs, temples and pyramids. Could not the pharoah that ascended into god status protect his moments thousands of his loyal subjects built and crafted with much skill and dedication? What about his treasure that would have sustained him in the afterlife? Why did that treasure end up in museums by way of thieves and tomb raiders? Where was your god when the Greeks came and the Romans came and the Arabs came and conquered. Surely your god could protect it's soveignty when the Israel waged war against it for 6 days? Wherewas your god when the sons of Europe came to take your people to the Americas as slaves. Surely a god that loved his children would not let this happen? Where was your god when brother was selling brother into bondage? Where was your god when you needed him or her or them? Well my God was with Rosa Parks when she couldn't no longer lower herself to something less than human. My God was with those marchers being spat upon and hosed down and mauled by dogs strengthening their spirits as they changed the mind and heart of a wicked world. My God was with four little girls in a Birmingham church when he called them home for a job well done. Those little girls forces the wicked powers to be to look at themselves for what they were. My God walked with school children as they were meet with angry mobs entering segregated schools in the South. My God was with every train porter, maid, cook, busboy, garbageman, and all the other lowly and menial job that funded a childs college tuition. My is with all the meek and humble or the second sons of the world. My God is still with us today. These questions were not meant to attack but to provoke thought. If anyone is offended by is this thread I'm sorry. The fact is the truth hurts sometimes.

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    Your Heart

    Issael21,

    You are posting many questions, but are you really seeking the truth? Check your heart. What are your true motives?

    Just ask him with a sincere heart about him. Ask him to him to open up yours eyes that you might be able to see the truth.

    You are reading the Word with your Eyes .....read with your heart.

    The Lords says we should seek him while he may be found , call on him while he is near.....Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts......For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my way, saith the Lord.

    Jesus is Lord.......

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    Being , That No One Is Runing To Get To Heaven

    Being , That No One Is Runing To Get To Heaven , Is There Really Such A Thing As Heven And If So . Why Can't We Find It ? First of all , The word Heaven comes from the word Haven which is merely a port or a harbor where ships come in ;... Haven N . 1. A Harbor or an anchorage ; A port . 2 . A place of refuge or rest ; A sactuary ;.. Heaven Tr V . Ha 'Vened , Ha-Ven-ing , Ha'Vens . To put into or provide with A Haven , [ middle english , from old english Hafen ] .


    Ancient religion scholars took the idea of a port where ships dock or rest and Incorporated it into the many religion today as heaven . The place where you go to be with God after Jesus comes down and pict you up and you go into A Crystal City and arrive in Heaven or Haven . Where ships ( The Crystal City , A Ship ) . Rest .


    Ancient religion scholars took the idea of a port where ships dock or rest and incorporated it into the many religions today as heaven . The place where you go to be with God after Jesus comes down and picks you up and you go into a crystal city and arrive in heaven or heaven where ships
    ( The Crystal City , A Ship Rest ) .


    According to the '' Weekly World News '' in April 23 , 1996 A.D. , Issue , an article Entitled '' Nasa Probe Records Voices In Space Of Angels Singing '' . States , that a secret NASA Statelite has recorded the voices of angels singing in heaven of millions of angels singing to God saying '' Glory , Glorly . Glorly , To The God On High '' . In English Over And Over Again . They are trying to keep your mind preoccupied so . You can't see what is really going on in the world .


    In an even more recent '' Weekly World News in the April 30 , 1996 A.D. Issue . They claim they have found where God lives and photographed it . ( Weekly World News , April 30 , 1996 A.D. '' Heaven Photographed By Hubble Telescope '' ) . If you can photograph God's house . Then why not just photograph God ? The people who know better , Have to keep you hoping and dreamings for this place . That is what religion is all about ; A hope that one day you will reach this mystical place heaven and do nothing for the rest of your life . A lot of these articles have been popping up and you will see more of them . There is money in religion and Ignorance . If they can keep you thinking about heaven .


    You won't pay attention and '' Ignore ( Ignor - Ance , IGNORING THE FACTS ) . What is really going on around you . They are even on a mission to find hell . These are all distractions . You can't find heaven because you looking for heaven within the sky '' Shamayeem as it is called in Aramic / Hebrew as found in Genesis 1;1 and Samawaati as it is called in Ashuric / Syriac / Arabic as found in Quraan 7;34 , According to 2Samuel 22;12 ; Psalm 18;11 , Shakh'aq means '' Firmament Cloud , Small Dust , Heaven . Sky . Your are looking for heaven in this universe . This solar system ( Milky Way ) . And what you are calling heaven is really on the other side of thesun with another black hole where another universe exists - and on andon as you were made to believe .


    They're making heaven out to be some spooky place instead of how their bible interprets it ( Matthew 13; 24, 31, 44-47 ). And what Jesus said in John 14 ; 2-3 . When Jesus said '' In My Father's House Are Many Mansions.. He was saying . In my former universe there is more than just this house ( Planet Earth ) . and this Solar System ( The Miky Way ) . There are many other mansions and there are many beings who live there , if it wasn't true , I wouldn't tell you that he said it . Now I'm leaving to go and prepare a place for you . That where I am . You may also be there .


    That's where the statement tells you .that in my father's house there are many mansions ; In the Universe , But you will be in the Universe '' Where I Am '' , Which means there are still others , And They Are On The Other Side Of The Sun . Don't Believe Me . Check It Out ! If You Know Anything About Astronomy . You Will Find That What I Am Saying Is Facts .
     
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    I agree some what.

    According to the '' Weekly World News '' in April 23 , 1996 A.D. , Issue , an article Entitled '' Nasa Probe Records Voices In Space Of Angels Singing '' . States , that a secret NASA Statelite has recorded the voices of angels singing in heaven of millions of angels singing to God saying '' Glory , Glorly . Glorly , To The God On High '' . In English Over And Over Again . They are trying to keep your mind preoccupied so . You can't see what is really going on in the world .


    In an even more recent '' Weekly World News in the April 30 , 1996 A.D. Issue . They claim they have found where God lives and photographed it . ( Weekly World News , April 30 , 1996 A.D. '' Heaven Photographed By Hubble Telescope '' ) . If you can photograph God's house . Then why not just photograph God ? The people who know better , Have to keep you hoping and dreamings for this place . That is what religion is all about ; A hope that one day you will reach this mystical place heaven and do nothing for the rest of your life . A lot of these articles have been popping up and you will see more of them . There is money in religion and Ignorance . If they can keep you thinking about heaven .


    I agreed with what you are saying to a degree. I believe there is a heaven but I don't believe it can be found in the physical realm. We could build a spaceship that could travel the speed of thought and still could not travel to heaven in physical form in a physical universe. The Weekly News is that tabloid publication that made fabricated ridiculous outlandish stories such as " the Bat Boy" or "the Horse Face Man" or "I had a 300 pound baby". This is irresponsible jornalism. People that waste their money on this publication probably called Miss Cleo as well. Don't waste your time on unreliable sources unless you like to be amused with lies.


    Peace

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