Black Spirituality Religion : Is Peace Natural?

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  1. river

    river Watch Her Flow MEMBER

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    We live on a violent planet in an even more violent universe. There is no where on this planet we can go where there is not something with the potential to take our lives. If it's not an earthquake, it's a tornado or a volcano or a tsunami, mudslide, avalanche, invisible gas, quicksand, lightening, monsoonsetc.

    We look at the stars and our human mind is the only thing in existence that perceives them to be beautiful. In reality thay are balls of fire, gas and matter careening through space at unimaginable speeds.

    Everything in the animal kingdom lives at the expense of something else. Even herbivores kill plants.

    Is it something within man yet outside of nature that enables us to live in such a universe and envision a world of peace?
     
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    I guess it all depends on your definition of peace. Is it a state of mind where you feel in perfect harmony with nature, your environment and people around you? It is a state of mind where you can totally feel calm and relax?. Everyday so many things are happening to the world, violence and crimes are happening in different parts of the world. The only person who can give yourself peace is yourself. If everybody knows how to achieve peace and harmony in this world, then there would be true peace in this world.

    But then,you would still have the violence that comes natural in the world such as in the animal kingdom,as you pointed out. So Based on that,I would have to say no,"Peace" is not natural.
     
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    No, peace is not natural.

    Peace is yet to be defined, because we have only experienced it within the constraints of "nature"

    When you realize that "life" is just a symbol name for what we are really experiencing, the idea of peace is seen in "vision" of third (I), and this produces "calm" within, which I can also refer to as the absence of "fear"

    nature is inside of man, and what we now see is a reflection of man all around, his perceived environment

    so long as this world "believes" that opposition is the key to existence it will not have a vision of peace

    vanity enforces the assumption that heaven and earth are it, that's it

    science co signs because it's logic and machines can't take it any farther

    psychology labels everything while applying astronomy, religion, and medicine

    with regard to speeds

    a light year is a plausible concept- meaning the light we view from such balls of gas, fire, etc actually for example if something is "10 light years" away, the light we eventually see really is from the past, because it's energy left the star, fire ball whatever, 10 yrs ago, to our understanding

    so light travels..... how fast, well science tries to measure it

    so this light is not linear, by perception, or direction-
     
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    well that is what the iluminati wants you to believe.

    We create what we focus on
    and manifest our internal dialogues.

    You can go to the stock exchange in NYC at 10 AM
    or you can sit in front of a lake out in the country if the question is still there

    The Norse myths Valhala, had a place where mortals went when they died as good Norsemen

    They went to what they concidered paradise

    It was a realm where there was constant endless war,, non lethal

    where their severed members would heal as well as any and all wounds, then for a period of rest they would drink eat and debauch, and then return to war

    for eternity

    Tolkien stated that the history of the Anglo Saxons , at the time of his stories , was a time when they as a nation, they where the mercenaries for the rest of Europe
     
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    the law of amen

    you were made in the likeness of a peace that nothing can disturb.

    reclaim your peace that you may attain to your reason for coming into existence:
    the enjoyment of life




    :SuN011:




     
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    Brotha Ankhur,

    I'm not following you. I described the realities of the violent physical universe we live in. Do you mean to suggest that the Illuminati caused all this? O maybe the whole thing is just a grand illusion they masterminded to deceive us.

    Problem is as long as the Illuminati has been around yet the oldest of them is no as old as the universe so they could not be responsible for the violence..

    Norseman and unenlightened ango saxons are a part of this violence that we find in the natural world. Their eyes are close together like the predators of the plains and jungles of the world. Only those who transcend nature and open their third eye are capable of envisioning peace. Meanwhile they kill with no more compunction than a lion killing a zebra and to them it is natural.
     
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    "made in the likeness of a peace nothing can disturb."

    So we are that thing inside of us yet outside nature that can envision peace. If this is a reclamation then we are envisioning something we have seen before. Where did we see it? Where did we have it that we may REclaim it?
     
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    What kind of definition of peaceful are we working with? All the things listed in the OP are not agents of intention.
     
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    all that is in "maat: the eleven laws" by RUNA.........
     
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    They don't have to be agents of intent in order to create a condition . The question is how can we look at the conditions found in nature and envision a world of peace. Peace from a human perspective may mean different things to different people in the details but we all share a basic concept of peace that differentiates it from the violent conditions we find in nature.
     
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