Black People Politics : Is Marching for Justice an Oxymoron?

Discussion in 'Black People Politics' started by UBNaturally, Aug 16, 2014.

  1. UBNaturally

    UBNaturally Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2014
    Messages:
    6,497
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +1,736
    Not sure if "oxymoron" is the best term to use, but for now we will go with it until a more applicable term comes.

    Many times over the past decade(s) though, there have been instances that have arisen that would bring about a public clamor around social issues and injustices done to people while hiding behind the letter of the law, and at times not even lawful.

    Somethings come to mind, and it all circles back to protesting and marching.

    Many consider these to be one in the same, but in our not too distant past, our elders participated in march as a form of active protest.

    Yes, marching began during the civil rights area to protest the busing system of Jim Crow and the south. Simply put, activists marched (WALKED) to show their disapproval and denounced a busing system that would not allow them equal accommodations.

    Activists were not marching just because they wanted attention, but because they were making a point and snubbing any form of transportation that would not agree to treat them with equal standards.

    I recall the "Jena 6" incident, and how me and mine were adamant about supporting their cause for justice. Posting flyers and sending out calls to spread the word to help these poor innocent black youth that had been unjustly incarcerated in Louisiana after nooses were hung on trees where they gathered from time to time.

    Long story short, after finding that the 6 youth beat another youth into a coma, something just didn't really feel that good about what we thought was "right". Still pushing forward, we scoured for more information about the incident, and it seemed the media wasn't pushing out all of the information and this made us ponder if the media was trying to push buttons just for ratings.

    But this video of "Salt n Pepa" heading down to join the "march" allowed me to see something more clear than before.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    When one mentioned 2 miles of marching was too long and they hope they don't get arrested, how far does this differ from the purposed marching that was an open protest against public transportation regardless of the distance or the beatings and arrests?
    http://www.vh1.com/video/shows/the-salt-n-pepa-show/190254/not-all-fun-and-games.jhtml#id=1574713

    Marching = Formed as a protest against public transportation
    http://mlk-kpp01.stanford.edu/index...lopedia/enc_montgomery_bus_boycott_1955_1956/

    [​IMG]

    So how does marching work today?

    If one is to protest, one must also show disapproval by actively boycotting that which is being protested.

    Holding signs and walking for 1-2 miles is somewhat peculiar when there is no actual understanding of an effective boycott in place to support it or momentum that brings it to purpose.

    Marching and avoiding public transportation to boycott busing regulations hurt and effectively ended busing segregation.

    What does marching hurt and effectively end in our current time?

    The March on Washington was a symbolic form of the struggle for equal rights, and to show that black citizens would walk together on the Capital, just as they walked together during the Montgomery bus boycotts that ignited the movement towards Washington.

    [​IMG]

    http://www.mrburnett.net/brookedream.html

    A march shouldn't begin it, a march should seal it.

    What would bring 250,000 people... black, white, latino, etc together for the goal of telling the justice system, "enough"?

    Or is there anything left that hasn't already been tried?
     
  2. Deacs

    Deacs Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    534
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +567
    Only because marching no longer works... it only makes you a great target for police to shoot rubber bullets, spray pepper spray, and abuse you in your angry yet non violent state.
     
  3. dunwiddat

    dunwiddat Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    Barbados
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    2,422
    Likes Received:
    1,481
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +1,503
    Marching is no longer effective. What black folks need to do is use their economic power.. Marching is like talking to a deaf person. In the 60's marching was effective with MLK...but if blacks folks today believe marching is what they need to do it shows that they have not gained any ground since MLK.

    Hitting white folks where it really hurts is the key. White folks love money and the spending power blacks have is the KEY.

    Black Enterprise - African-American's Buying Power To Be $1.1 Trillion By 2015
     
  4. UBNaturally

    UBNaturally Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2014
    Messages:
    6,497
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +1,736

    To follow up on that, how and where do we hit where it hurts in relationship to police brutality and the like?

    Again, marching was simply symbolic for the anti busing movement as a protest against unequal conditions for equal cost.

    How does a community "hurt" the systems of the overseer?

    Everyone can claim "hit them in their pocket books", but where is that exactly?

    Making a scene for the sake of getting attention does not create the change that many of those marching expect.

    Where exactly does one hit them where it hurts?

    Laws are typically backed by punitive damages (fines, fees, cost for losses, etc).
     
  5. dunwiddat

    dunwiddat Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    Barbados
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    2,422
    Likes Received:
    1,481
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +1,503
    The criminal justice system in the USA leaves a lot to be desired. I believe that racism continues to be at the root of policing in the USA. A racist police force (despite the fact that there are black within the force) tends to see brutality as a way of dealing with blacks. They (the white racists) do not have great respect for blacks. I am sure there are decent white policemen though but for those who have a very low opinion of black I guess we will continue to see things like this. One thing that I continue to say is, Why are the black politicians always silent when it comes to things like this. Are they so far removed from their brothers and sisters that they don't utter a word. I would think that they would have the interest of black folks at heart...but this does not seem to be the case.
     
  6. Black-king

    Black-king Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Messages:
    1,943
    Likes Received:
    715
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +720
    Have we ever gotten justice by marching before?
     
  7. Deacs

    Deacs Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2013
    Messages:
    844
    Likes Received:
    534
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +567
    nope, or social media whoring, or celebrity sponsorship of a cause, or the ice water challenge, or picture bombing, or any of the other actions which people are doing rather than direct action.

    simply... don't mess up your own area.
     
  8. Black-king

    Black-king Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    United States
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2011
    Messages:
    1,943
    Likes Received:
    715
    Gender:
    Male
    Ratings:
    +720
    Only Negroes does that foolishness, destroying their own area, and left their neighborhoods a mess. That's a cowardly move, because their enemy supposedly is evil cops who are shooting our people for the fun of it, they are not touching them, but they will their aggressions on themselves. sigh.
     
  9. dunwiddat

    dunwiddat Well-Known Member MEMBER

    Country:
    Barbados
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    2,422
    Likes Received:
    1,481
    Gender:
    Female
    Ratings:
    +1,503
     
Loading...