Black People : Is Malcolm the reason white folks love Martin?

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    During the 60s the white establishment begin throwing their support (If you can call it that) for Civil Rights behind MLK.

    Today, we see him idolized as a global icon for human rights and justice.

    Did white folks - back in the 60s and now - realize what a threat Malcolm X and Black Nationalism could be to their power structure?

    Did they think that black folks having our own everything would eventually lead to their own demise and that integration would keep them in power?
     
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    Given the push by Caucasians to indoctrinate slaves with Christianity through such beatitudes as "yours will come in heaven" and "slaves should obey their masters", what do you think ?

    It is all about control and self-interest. Of course, there is a certain calculus to maintenance or extension of power.
     
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    PRESS RELEASE 12/30/2011: GOD ALMIGHTY'S GRAND UNIFIED THEOREM,
    NICKNAMED GAGUT, Gij,j=0, SETS HUMANITY FREE AND ENDS GLOBAL
    TERRORISM AGAINST AFRICANS



    GOD ALMIGHTY'S GRAND UNIFIED THEOREM, Nicknamed GAGUT Gij,j=0, has
    infallibly proven that all theorems (proven truths) and all equations past, present and
    future originate out of one invariant Gi which has orthogonal components Gij, and a
    divergence of Gij,j=0, the only one singular equation representing all of mathematics
    and all of knowledge of the truth. GOD has revealed over the ages certain formulas,
    codes or equations that drastically change the way humanity deals with survival
    problems. Gm1m2-Fr2=0 revealed by GOD to Sir Professor Isaac Newton,
    revolutionized European economy and technologies (industrial revolution) as well as
    transforming Europe into the global military superpower. E-MC2=0 revealed by GOD
    to Professor Albert Einstein, helped to propel America as the global military
    superpower. Gij,j=0 revealed by GOD to Professor G. Oyibo transformed Africa into
    the Global Military Superpower. Sir Professor Isaac Newton was recognized (eg. was
    appointed as a member of the British Parliament, Master of the Royal Mint and Master
    of Trinity College of Cambridge University) and immortalized by England and other
    European countries for his revelation. Professor Albert Einstein was also recognized
    (eg. was offered the presidency of Israel, declared the Man of the Century) and
    immortalized by the Jewish People and the American Government for his revelation.
    Professor G. Oyibo was beginning to be recognized (eg. his picture was put on a
    Nigerian Postage Stamp awarded the African International Prize for Science and
    Technology) and immortalized by Nigeria and other African Countries for his revelation
    when enemies of the African Race began a very vicious global campaign against
    GAGUT and Professor G. Oyibo in an attempt at stopping the GOD'S Order uplifting
    the African Race to Global Leadership.

    GOD ALMIGHTY'S GRAND UNIFIED THEOREM, Nicknamed GAGUT Gij,j=0 has
    been ordained by GOD to be the only solution to all of Humanity and African Problems,
    particularly African Unity Problems like Unifying Tutsi's and Hutu's (Rwanda), all of the
    various factions in all of the wars in Africa (eg. Congo, Sudan, Ethiopia, Libya, Uganda
    and others) as well as Unifying MEND (Niger Delta) and BOKO HARAM (Northern
    Nigeria). This is why enemies of the African Race are trying to keep Africans away
    from GAGUT by using their so called strong foreign currencies and terrorizing Africans
    (particularly Brilliant Politicians like the Nigerian Senators and Government) who have
    tried to legislate GAGUT as the tool to solve all of the problems of the African Race,
    as well as the rest of the world. For example Nigerian Senators (eg Senator Professor
    Iya Abubakar) were forced out of their offices after they unanimously adopted a
    GAGUT Motion (enclosed). Some Senators, Congressmen and Government Ministers
    (eg. Senator Adighije, Minister Professor Osuji, Senator Ugbane, Congressman
    Doctor Matazu, Minister Architect Aduku ) were attacked by phony sting operations
    by the foreign enemies of Africa. Similarly Nigerian Governors (eg. Governor Ibrahim
    Idris), Senators and other Government officials (eg. Postmaster General Musa
    Argungu) were either mysteriously killed in airplane crashes or their children and other
    relatives were mysteriously killed or injured in airplane crashes after they have tried to
    facilitate the use of GAGUT as a tool for solving African Problems. The Airplane
    carrying the three daughters of Governor Ibrahim Idris was mysteriously crashed but
    were miraculously saved by GOD, while 100 passengers of the airplane were killed,
    shortly after Governor Idris began building the OFAPPIT INSTITUTE OF
    TECHNOLOGY Campus in Kogi State, Nigeria. Postmaster General Musa Argungu
    was also mysteriously killed when the airplane in which he was a passenger was
    crashed, shortly after he had successfully convinced the Nigerian Federal Government
    using international standards to review GAGUT, and the scientific works of the late
    Professor A. Awojobi, as well as the work of Professor P. Emeagwali together with the
    works of three literary Icons: Professor Chinua Achebe, Nobel Laureate Professor
    Wole Soyinka, Professor Abubakar Imam, to declare the Three Literature Giants as
    Literary icons, and Professor A. Awojobi, Engineering Genius, Professor Emeagwali,
    Supercomputer Genius, Professor G. Oyibo, through whom GOD had revealed
    GAGUT, Mathematical Genius. Postmaster General Musa Argungu also
    recommended the issuing of the Nigerian Postage Stamps, with the pictures and the
    conferred titles of the Literary Icons and the Scientific Geniuses. Although Professor P.
    Emeagwali had won the prestigious International Gordon Prize, and Professor G.
    Oyibo's conferred title of Mathematical Genius, was an understatement compared to
    Physics Professor Krishendu Dasgupta (India), declaring Professor G. Oyibo as
    being Closer to GOD (in intelligence and other ways) than any other Human Being ever
    created due to GAGUT revelation (See his e-mail here), and whereas the Mathematical
    Genius title conferred on Professor G. Oyibo is also an understatement compared to
    Goettingen University's declaring of GAGUT as the Greatest Mathematical Revelation
    in History, and thereby declaring Professor G. Oyibo as the Greatest Mathematics
    Genius of all time (see Goettingen Ranking placing GAGUT in the center of the Gauss
    2005 celebration at Week 26 of 52 here). Professor P. Emeagwali and Professor G.
    Oyibo continue to be viciously attacked by the enemies (and their agents) of Africa.
    Enemies of the Black Race forced President Obasanjo and the rest of the African
    Union leaders to ignore the Nigerian Senate GAGUT Motion, which was adopted
    unanimously where GAGUT united MASSOB (Biafra), MEND (Niger Delta), BOKO
    HARAM (Northern Nigeria), OMODUDUA (Western Nigeria) through their Senators all
    agreeing on GAGUT (Nigerian Senate GAGUT Motion enclosed). Enemies of Africa
    were flabbergasted to see this unification of the African people by GAGUT, and so
    pumped large sums of money into Nigeria to campaign against GAGUT, Professor G.
    Oyibo and Professor P. Emeagwali, within Nigeria and globally. The Nigerian Unified
    Field Institute Bill (SB. 59), also called GAGUT Institute Bill authored by Senator
    Agbo, a Southerner and Senator Ugbane, a Northerner, was unifying the Nigerian
    People like the Nigerian Senate GAGUT Motion, when it was passed by the Nigerian
    Senate during the first reading. Shortly thereafter enemies of the Black Race began a
    campaign to kill this GAGUT Institute Bill, which was brilliantly constructed to not only
    unify Africans, but also to unify the whole world, through the upliftment of Humanity to
    Glorify the Almighty GOD. These attacks by the enemies of the Black Race, by
    attacking the GAGUT developments, are very sophisticated and are not easily
    recognized by the masses of the African People and they take advantage of their
    strong foreign currencies as compared to the African currencies, since Africans have
    been reduced to non productive people, by enemies of Black People. Foreign Banks
    control African economies and so prevent Africans from being Productive. For
    example the World Bank is occupying the OFAPPIT INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
    Campus in Kogi State, Nigeria and blocking us from conducting classes in the
    Campus. Such an action can never be considered Friendly to the African people.
    Therefore all Africans Globally are requested to demand the Nigerian Government and
    all of the other African Governments to begin implementing the GAGUT Institute Bill
    and the Nigerian Senate GAGUT Motion and to demand the Nigerian Senate to
    complete the legislating of the GAGUT Institute Bill and the Nigerian Senate GAGUT
    Motion into laws as well as to demand the World Bank and other enemies of the Black
    Race to stop their painful and unfair attacks on GAGUT and the African People, whom
    they claim to be friendly with. Enclosed also is President Obasanjo's Letter, Minister
    Professor Osuji's Address at the GAGUT 2004 Workshop, and an assessment by Ms.
    Comfort Ero , an African living in Canada who seems to have summarized the feelings
    of all African People. GOD BLESS YOU.



    John Glover

    Director of GAGUT GLOBAL EDUCATIONAL REVOLUTION PROGRAM (GGERP)
     
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    peace

    I'm sure they made some type of deal in the beginning with dr. king, but i think as time went on Dr. king saw that the 'white establishment' wasn't keeping their end of the bargin. So, as i've said in a couple of other threads, imho El Hajj is the reason that they signed 'the voting right's act' in '65 because of his threats towards america in some of his speeches. El Hajj was a 'free' man, no longer with the nation and was willing to work with anyone who sincerely wanted justice. this is when he and Dr. King started to dialogue and find that they were not so different.

    So, in the beginning, yes, they favored dr. king over El hajj because Dr. king was talking about doing more talking and El hajj was talking about doing. So they figured we will give the peaceful one what he wants, but now we have to permanently get rid of the militant one.

    As time went on after the assassination of El Hajj, Dr. king started to sound different. He wasn't talking that 'we shall overcome' talk anymore. He had become a militant and started to finally speak out against what was going on abroad. In the eyes of the 'establishment' that was a spit in the face. "after all we've been good to you boy". I'm sure to them, he even started to look like el hajj in some of his later speeches, you know the one's they never show you that you'll have to look up yourself! This is when J. Edgar called him in to let him know the dirt he had on him and that he would make it public if he didn't stay in his lane... Thus, the i have a dream speech because Martin realized that he'd rather die a man, than live like a coward bowing to hoover and the boys. So on one level he decided to defy him and take him to war by himself instead of continuing to let so many others get hurt for what he called 'intergrating his people into a burning house'.
     
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    peace

    May i ask what this has to do with the topic of the thread?
     
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    This piece discusses how Malcolm's and Dr. King's goal of liberation for the Black/African Diaspora has been achieved.
     
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    :hello: kruegger55 ... Welcome Welcome Welcome ... :wave:

    Thanks for joining us and sharing!

    While the above quote may have some relevance to this thread, posting it repeatedly in other threads, makes you look like a spammer.

    You've shared more than just the above quote, so i'm reluctant to think such of you, but please ... don't post the same thing over and over again, in a multitude of threads ... especially as a brand new Member ... it's just not a good look.

    If you want the above to get attention, generate interest and discussion, perhaps start a thread with it as the topic ... instead of inserting it in so many other threads / topics.

    Personally, i'm glad to have you with us and look forward to all that you have to share.

    Are you the author of the above, John Glover himself?!

    Please make yourself right at home!

    Much Love and Peace.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    White folks didn't love either one of them. They were both feared, demonized and hated. And they were both shot down at 39 years of age. This whole idea of King being embraced is revisionist history that has happened since then. They promote King's non-violence tactic for the same reason they promoted Mahatma Gandhi's non-violence tactic.. it's to neutralize any real threat to control by creating the myth that non-violent protest actually works. It's a matter of conditioning the dominated to resist in manageable ways. So they promoted the so-called "Independence" of African Nations.. and the so-called, "progress" of Africans in America.. The last thing they wanted to see was African people identifying with Castro.. or Mao.. because they knew that could lead to a real revolution. So Gandhi was taught in all of the colonized lands.. to all of the colonized people as the morally correct way to resist. Even though it was unsuccessful for Gandhi.. his people were divided into Pakistan and India.. and still are at each other's throats all these years later..

    Martin was about change.. Malcolm was about change.. and they both were killed just as they were coming into political maturity. Don't let anybody tell you that it was one versus the other.. Spike did that with that piece at the end of Do The Right Thing.. but that was more of a New York thing than anything else.. The real ending to that film was rejected by the studio as being "dangerous".. so he threw that up there.. and that debate has raged ever since.
     
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    It is all about maintenance of power and the usufructus derived from others due to their subjugation.
     
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    Yes, Malcolm X/the NOI and the ideology of "Black Nationalism" did NOT favor/support INTEGRATION.--- Integration was pressed for by Dr. King and the Civil Rights Movement.

    Yes, Malcolm/the NOI/and Black Nationalism espoused SEPARATION....NOT INTEGRATION.

    You have to also further understand the climate of that era and the polar opposites in ideologies of the NOI and Dr. King.

    Now, at first, Malcolm berated Dr. King for his "non-violent"/integrationist philosophy; but, in later years, he began to agree with him on some points.

    "You don't integrate with a sinking ship." - Malcolm X

    But, in 1964, Malcolm said THIS about Dr. King:

    "I'll say nothing against him. At one time the whites in the United States called him a racialist, and extremist, and a Communist. Then the Black Muslims came along and the whites thanked the Lord for Martin Luther King.", King

    And, you can't just start in the 1960s. --- The Civil Rights Movement did not start in the 60s but in 1955 with the Montgomery Bus Boycott. --- So, starting in 1955, Dr. King had been on the national forefront advocating BLACK EQUALITY with White America and was the most FEARED Black man in White America before Malcolm became the spokesman for the NOI/Elijah Muhammad.

    And as for the SEPARATIST ideology of Malcolm/the NOI/and Black Nationalism, historically, White America never, essentially, had much objection to Blacks SEPARATING from THEM.--- For White America, BLACK SEPARATISM was called "COLONIZATION." -Before the Civil War, White America wanted to get rid of some FREE BLACKS by "colonizing"/sending them to LIBERIA (cuz they didn't want FREE Black people corrupting their SLAVES.)---Pres. Lincoln even tried to get rid of some FREED SLAVES by "colonizing"/sending them to an island near Haiti. http://destee.com/index.php?threads/ile-a-vache-cow-island-haiti.69247/#post-713528

    So, what White America really FEARED most was Black people INTEGRATING with them, not SEPARATING from them.

    But, as the CRM gained more-and-more national and INTERNATIONAL coverage, Dr. King's ideology and methods also gained more WHITE SUPPORT. --- America was nationally and internationally shamed and EMBARRASSED when its so-called "CITIZENS" were seen on tv being beaten by policemen, pummeled with fire hoses and set upon by vicious dogs....all because they wanted to exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to VOTE. --- And Whites who agreed with Dr. King began to support his efforts.

    So, with or without Malcolm and the NOI, Dr. King was considered a baaaad man, a DANGEROUS man in the eyes of much of White America because he was saying that WE are just as good as YOU; that WE have the same RIGHTS as YOU; and that WE will no longer accept this "second-class citizenship," disenfranchisement and these "SEPARATE and UN-equal" accommodations.
     
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