Black Spirituality Religion : Is Jesus/God Real?

[cisslybee2012]

I agree with Cissyleebee, Jesus was a myth and came into story history via the Church, taking information about the Egyptian God of Light, Ra, the sun, and creating from the Ra/Horus information, Jesus the son. However, like anything else, energy is what all that is is made of, thus energy consciousness is very real.

You can focus energy and it will manifest on the material plane. So, the Jesus consciousness is very real because people swallowed the myth and attributed to and embraced the teachings of this mythical Jesus, thus making the Jesus consciousness a reality via our collective consciousness. Since the idea of Jesus was that he transcended religion, having thrown off the mantle of Judaism, and instead taught love. The greatest transmuting energy in all creation is love. One does not have to embrace any religion or any philosophy to love. One merely has to do it and be it.

I do believe however there is a divine creator of dual nature -female/male. Again in energy and light form. I also believe there is a hierarchy of Gods/Goddesses and emissaries of the Light. I know through what my guides tells me that there are worlds within worlds, higher and lower. All things evolve in time and each moves to a higher world via their lessons, the knowledge they acquire and the actions they have taken to move to higher planes of wisdom. Each is on the road of return to the Divine.

I believe that HU man (Hu-God) is a co-creator on earth in this plane and dimension with God. All that is is God, is one. Nothing is above or below the other. All is experiencing and creating as God(s) are experiencing and creating via their creations.

That is why it’s important not to have judgment. Each of us is on our own specific mission and path back to the creator. There is no one path, but many paths and many lessons to hone the soul through trials by fire. According to our deeds, we rise or fall along the way. Yet no one is held back, only delayed via their own mindset and actions.

Once we wake up to this understanding than and only then, can we live our lives consciously and with a more evolved mindset.

Your thoughts are pretty much how our ancestors of Mesopotamia felt. They believed that there's more than 1 God, and I find that more sensible than the notion that God is all by herself. I surely don't believe that God is alone. She has company. But in addition to what you pointed out in what people need to do to comply with the process of evolution, is to also understand what the ego is and how it can cause havoc on earth if we allow ourselves to be ruled by it.

People endowed with natural leadership qualities are using it for their own selfish purposes to make others do their bidding, instead of making a difference in the world by leading others out of despair. This is precisely what modern religions are based upon and why people are so bent on following it. It serves their ego; their personal desire to exploit others, exercise authority over others, and claim ownership to someone. Particularly men, as all religions claim that only men are in God's image and women are only a mat or soil for men to walk on.

We really do need to get a grip on our ego too.

 

[cisslybee2012]

Understood. So, why do you believe there is a "CREATOR".

I only call the Creator "God" when speaking to the religious.

I believe there is a creator because nothing appears out of nothing, existence is being supported by something, life is operating by programs whom the creator is the designer of the programs, we can strive to learn and understand how nature works - but we can't control nature - nature controls us. Simply put, we cannot be or continue on without the creator.

 

[A007]

Hmmm...

I believe there is a creator because nothing appears out of nothing, existence is being supported by something, life is operating by programs whom the creator is the designer of the programs, we can strive to learn and understand how nature works - but we can't control nature - nature controls us. Simply put, we cannot be or continue on without the creator.

I am pretty sure that if you said that to an atheist they would say you were not an Atheist.

It is more likely that you are a Deist...much like me. Look it up and tell me what you think.

Peace and Love`

 

[cisslybee2012]

I am pretty sure that if you said that to an atheist they would say you were not an Atheist.

It is more likely that you are a Deist...much like me. Look it up and tell me what you think.

Peace and Love`

A deist is somebody who believes God created life but abandoned it. If and when she ever does that, we will surely be done with, and all the bodies in our solar system will become meteors flying about in space and the sun will burn out and collapse. There will be nothing.

But I know for a fact that my statements to any religious person or person who thinks they're religious, would call me an atheist. But I've never seen a person in my life who disbelieved in the existence of God, so in my opinion, the dictionary definition of atheist is fictional. In my experience, atheism means not to believe in religion or fully follow the doctrinal mania of religion. Somebody who recognizes their own brain and uses it to do good, is an atheist. Somebody who relies on other people's brain is religious. The religious one fits the dictionary explanation of atheist more than atheist do, because they have no faith in themselves or God, but only in opportunist. They are crowd followers, and can't be trusted.

If somebody says that they don't believe in God, all they're truly saying is that they don't believe in religion. There's a difference, and many people continually confuse the two. Somebody who thinks they're religious like Dr. Martin Luther King did, would embrace an atheist, but a religious person would reject and psyche out on the person.

If a hero were to save someone's life, a religious person would say something stupid like: "You're going straight to hell if you don't go to church and read the bible". They would make such an idiotic statement to someone who saved a life because they don't give a hoot about anybody's life. Period.

The atheist is sane and the religious person is insane. But theist is another way of describing someone like me. But it don't matter to me what people want to call me. I'm simply not interested. All I can tell anyone is that I'm not about being played like a piano. So call me atheist or theist, I don't care.

 

[A007]

A deist is somebody who believes God created life but abandoned it. If and when she ever does that, we will surely be done with, and all the bodies in our solar system will become meteors flying about in space and the sun will burn out and collapse. There will be nothing.

But I know for a fact that my statements to any religious person or person who thinks they're religious, would call me an atheist. But I've never seen a person in my life who disbelieved in the existence of God, so in my opinion, the dictionary definition of atheist is fictional. In my experience, atheism means not to believe in religion or fully follow the doctrinal mania of religion. Somebody who recognizes their own brain and uses it to do good, is an atheist. Somebody who relies on other people's brain is religious. The religious one fits the dictionary explanation of atheist more than atheist do, because they have no faith in themselves or God, but only in opportunist. They are crowd followers, and can't be trusted.

If somebody says that they don't believe in God, all they're truly saying is that they don't believe in religion. There's a difference, and many people continually confuse the two. Somebody who thinks they're religious like Dr. Martin Luther King did, would embrace an atheist, but a religious person would reject and psyche out on the person.

If a hero were to save someone's life, a religious person would say something stupid like: "You're going straight to hell if you don't go to church and read the bible". They would make such an idiotic statement to someone who saved a life because they don't give a hoot about anybody's life. Period.

The atheist is sane and the religious person is insane. But theist is another way of describing someone like me. But it don't matter to me what people want to call me. I'm simply not interested. All I can tell anyone is that I'm not about being played like a piano. So call me atheist or theist, I don't care.

OK, theist it is then...lol. I have met and personally KNOW people who believe there is NO GOD at all. That we were not created. These people are atheists. Not the dictionary definition, but the definition from the ATHEIST.org. They should be authorities on themselves. I have also debated with people who believed their was NO GOD and helped to change that belief to the acceptance of a Creator...a Creator who is not interested in RELIGION at all.

But, like you say, as long as we are not being mislead by the religious then we are ok.

Peace and Love