IS IT TIME TO GO TO WAR AGAINST THE RAP INDUSTRY?

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  1. bigtown

    bigtown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    What do you think about this guys? Essence magazine has launched a campaign to end the negative images of black women portrayed in rap videos and rap music. I support Essence 110 percent. This in my opinion, should have been started by the NAACP, but we all know how useless they've become. My question is, where are the black men in this fight. Why do the black men allow the image of our women to be trashed all over the world just because lil (no talent) Jon has a good beat on that track? Or is it because rappers are black men we have some kind of warped loyalty to them? If rock music started having "step n fetchit" or "Amos and Andy" type characters in it's videos would we stand for that? Brothers, don't you think it's time we had the sisters backs on this? Rap is being manipulated by devils and they're using black men ( rappers ) most of which are misguided idiots who could care less about the black race let alone black women, and turning them into whores on a global stage. It's real brothers, is it time to go to war with our sisters on this?
     
  2. kente417mojo

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    I agree bigtown, but the problem is that sistas aren't going to war against it. They are some of the biggest supporters of rap music. To be honest, I don't think that many black folks period care that rap is a cancer to us. I have banned rap by not buying it and not promoting it in any way, but there is that thing called Freedom of Speech. We can never silence their ignorance because it makes too much money and white folks love it too much. Sistas are the first ones to line up and audition for the videos. Sistas are always in the front row at the concerts. Sistas look past the hateful words in their music, but are quick to say "Oh, Nelly is sooo cute". Sistas are the problem bigtown. Not all, but a large number of sistas. They weigh the situation like "Hmmm...what's more attractive, Nelly's money and fame, or my dignity as a black woman". Guess which one they choose...not their dignity man. We can't go to war for the sistas, if the sistas aren't willing to go to war for themselves. Black men embrace what these artist portray and black women want to be on their arm. It's a sad situation, but that's the truth.
     
  3. KWABENA

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    ......................And the truth hurts, rightfully so.

    Why are you talking about Men when the women are supposed to be smarter? Kente and I just went over this in his thread, didn't we Kente?

    We do not tell them to go out to the mall and join the Victoria Secret Membership club. I said over and over again - Sistahs do not need that stuff!

    As for the videos, I started a thread while back in the Entertainment Forum on Music Video girls. I am totally against it, because when our people started music, nobody was shaking ***. When the Amerikkkan 'All-Mighty Dollar" got to them, it became a habit. If Men are going to be stupid enough to disrespect the sistahs, then the sistahs should not be stupid enough to go along with it. For the record, I was just about to disagree about Lil Jon, but then I remembered that Lil Jon's Music is half-shake dat booty, and half-fight that N!gg@! The thing is, don't do what he says to do. Maybe if someone stepped up and said to him and many others, "You are going too far with what you do. Slow down, and be more civil with your beats and style." You know what keeps people from doing that? "Oh, Lil Jon got money. I think I should leave my thongs hanging out and strap on my Hooker-wear to impress him so I can get in his video." It is like that. Where are the strong sistahs at when you need them who say, "Lil Jon, you are pathetic, etc, etc. Where are they? They see money, so they want it. Don't blame the brothas for all this. Women are just as big on money as men are. Take a look at the pictures with a bunch of sistahs half-naked all hanging on to one guy. That is ridiculous. Stop the pimpin!

    This form of change will take alot of work. So bigtown, How committed are you to going to war against the rap industry? Just to let you know, as your Destee Family Member, I am with you on ending this, but like I said, How bad do you want it?

    CD
     
  4. soulfulmixx

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    :hearthis: *fist up* im def. a sista in on this war..

    -- im able to see and converse with peeps in the industry first hand and it all boils down to the Dollar...bottom line..i usually just now invest my money and time and appreciation into conscious.. indie and underground hip hop artists..

    Brotha bigtown i so feel your questioning on this for i too feel as u..so its basically like this.. Money is the motivating factor.. its very powerful.. and its has a huge affect on us as a people and the conforming to society we engage in..

    very few black men and woman i kno are taught self love.. love for culture and for are fellow brotha and sista... those of us that are however, are faced to sit back and see the unfolding of race degregation..undisciplined acts and conforming to a society thats could give a dam about you or your people..
    :bam:

    i feel its going to get worst--no i kno its going to get worst not better before "THE END".. we including myself can only do so much...but i still say fight.. stand for something..

    uhmm if we as a people only truly knew who we are and the power we hold within us..uhmmp if more of us only knew..

    i will continue to pray and nod my head to "real hip hop".. :dance1: embracing true warriors and and admiring tru Queens.. :grouphug:

    black people u must stay AWAKE!!! u must :bomb:
    soulfulmix :hearts4:
     
  5. MANASIAC

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    Brother Big I do not mean to pull punches but, let’s say the Rap Industry is destroyed.

    Aren't you the same brother, who said he might be pregnant from a woman he does not want to be with?

    With or without the rap industry, until the Black Family is united and strong, this war will mean nothing. If you have a strong family unit, you might have parents that will tell you this stuff is fiction.

    You might have Fathers who carefully select their mates and have children from women they want are in love and want to build legacies with. And these Fathers and Mothers might be the source of leadership for the kids, Not RAP, HOLLYWOOD or ENTERTAINMENT - PERIOD.

    I think essence needs to rage a war against AmeriKKKa destroying the Black Family, not against an Industry which purports fantasy as a reality. I notice Essence has not lacerated Hollywood or the Porn Industry. What about the clothing industry? These guys make stripper type clothing for teens.

    These industries destroy the image of the Black Female as well.

    I notice that essence is not trying to lay any foundations for the resurrection of the Black Household.


    Until our family units are stronger and we have brothers and sisters who want to create stable homes by being in them together, these problems we have will still continue.

    If our families are not strong, then the children and others will find other images of the media to be their leaders, after the rap industry is destroyed.

    So I guess Essence will pick a new war huh?
     
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    Fantastic post brother Manasaic! I couldn't have said this any better myself!
     
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    MANASIAC Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Thank you Brother Pan, I finally see now, that myself as the Black Man who created a dysfunctional black family is the real problem. Not some one else.
     
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    Bravo my brotha BRAVO nuff said TRULY
     
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    word is bond manasaic...thas da truth...
    one love
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  10. bigtown

    bigtown Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I also said that I was going to be a father to the child Manasiac, I'll forgive you for not including that in your post. Anyway, I do agree with the rest of your post. We are in need of strong families in the black community.
     
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