Black People : Is it Al Qaeda that is in Libya?

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  1. MsInterpret

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    Gaddafi wrote a letter to Obama, the French and British leaders, also the UN Secretary General, claiming that it is Al Qaeda striking against the Libyans.

    Is this Al Qaeda or Gaddafi's doing?

    To my Dear Obama, our son', says Gaddafi, defending attack on rebels
    19 Mar 2011, 1757 hrs IST, AGENCIES
    Calling Barack Obama as "our son", Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi sent a message to the US President defending his decision to attack the rebels fighting to overthrow him.

    Gaddafi(68) also wrote a letter to the French and British leaders, and the UN Secretary General, saying the Security Council resolution was "void" and violated the UN charter, warning them that they would "regret" any intervention.

    "Libya is not for you, Libya is for the Libyans," he said.

    Details of Gaddafi's letters were released by the Libyan government spokesman at a news conference in Tripoli.

    Defending his decision to attack rebel cities, Gaddafi told Obama, "Al Qaeda is an armed organisation, passing through Algeria, Mauritania and Mali. What would you do if you found them controlling American cities with the power of weapons? What would you do, so I can follow your example."

    Trying to strike a personal note, Gaddafi prefaced his letter saying, "To our son, his excellency, Mr Baracka Hussein Obama. I have said to you before, that even if Libya and the United States of America enter into a war, god forbid, you will always remain a son. Your picture will not be changed."

    In his letter to Nikolas Sarkozy, David Cameron and Ban Ki Moon, Gaddafi said, "Libya is not yours, Libya is for the Libyans. The security council, their resolution is void because it is not according to the charter to interfere with the internal affairs of the country."

    You have no right. You will regret if you get involved in this, our country. We can never shoot a single bullet on our people, it is Al Qaeda organisation."

    http://www.timesnow.tv/Gaddafi-defends-attack-on-rebels/articleshow/4368205.cms
     
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  3. Omowale Jabali

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    I have stated before in several threads that AQIM has ben organizing and deploying insurgents in Libya. This is nothing new.

    http://www.menewsline.com/article-3052-AQIM-Begins-To-Organize-In-Libya.aspx

    At the same time Kadafi has been recruiting African mercenaries, funded by the zionist firm Global CST.

    Each side accuses the other while dening rumors of their involvement as well.

    Certainly the jihadists are considering joining the front against Kadafi if they have not done so.

    Jihadists discussed the possibility of al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) entering the revolution in Libya against Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, and explored what US-NATO military intervention in the country may afford al-Qaeda in terms of a new jihadist front.

    A jihadist opened the discussion on the Shumukh al-Islam forum on March 7, 2011, questioning why AQIM does not deploy suicide bombers to Libya and attack those groups who Gaddafi set upon the Libyan people. He also thought that AQIM entering Libya before US and NATO will “cut off the way for the Crusader forces and foil their schemes,” and allow the fighters to lie in wait for the enemy if they do intervene. One jihadist who contributed to the discussion expressed his fear that if AQIM does deploy fighters, openly declares its presence and claims responsibility for attacks in Libya, then Gaddafi may increase his brutality upon the people and turn public opinion against al-Qaeda. Other jihadists also worried about public opinion turning against al-Qaeda, in that AQIM attacks may give US and NATO a pretext for invading Libya. However, some jihadists explained that the enemy is searching for any justification to enter the country. One jihadist wrote, for example: “America and the West in general will not be patient regarding the oil banquet in Libya. They are searching for a justification to intervene, and they already brought the Karzai of Libya in a short period of time, the Justice Minister, who divorced politics – as he said – but he cannot stand its absence.”

    https://news.siteintelgroup.com/hom...cuss-possibility-of-aqim-intervening-in-libya

    The problem with Kadafi's assertions is he says they are entering from countries to the west of Tripoli but the insurgency is based in eastern Libya. One thing for sure is the rebels refer to their young fighters as "shabab".

    http://wn.com/Message_to_Shabab_of_Libya__Dearborn_Anti-Gaddafi_Protests_Feb_25th_2011__Michiganflv

    Remember that name.

    http://www.juancole.com/2011/03/pirio-military-offensive-against-al-shabaab-in-somalia.html
     
  4. Omowale Jabali

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    There are some developments which have intensified since 2009 that the western media is trying to keep hidden from most of its people. This has to do with the rise of AQIM abductions and the military operations of western countries in response. For example,


    The Canadian soldiers were among 800 personnel taking part in Exercise Flintlock, a U.S.-sponsored training event designed to teach skills to African militaries dealing with terrorism, drug and weapons smuggling and human trafficking in northwest Africa.


    The region has been in the news lately as AQIM has conducted a number of kidnappings and attacks. The latest came in February in what the terror group described as an attempt to kill the president of Mauritania. The AQIM hit team was killed before it could carry out its mission.


    Other countries besides the U.S. and Canada were involved in Flintlock, including Spain, France, the Netherlands and Germany, as well as soldiers from Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, Nigeria and Senegal.


    This was the first time that Canada participated in the special forces exercise. That participation was planned long before the current upheaval in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia and Yemen.



    Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/C...aida+hostage/4468761/story.html#ixzz1HHAUhiIj



    If the western countries can gain a foothold in Libya, not only do they then gain greater control of the piplines but also they re-estabish a base for which to fight and contain the AQIM in the surounding countries.

    The irony is that if these cells are active in eastern Libya then military bombardment against Kadafi only gives cover for the AQIM who are mounting their own insurgency.

    They also are increasing abductions and heightening their demands for ransom as the crisis in Libya escalates.

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.5645d8bc0fdf6586fdb738899e18abd4.291
     
  5. Omowale Jabali

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    I posted this link before in another thread. Check where the weapons depot that was raided in located.

    Members of militant Islamist Internet forums reported that weapons seized during militants' attack on barracks in Libya are now on their way to Algeria to al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).
    A member of al Fallujah forum called "Moheb al-Sheikh al Madisi" claimed to have received information from trusted sources that militants in Libya managed to steal large quantities of weapons from barracks in Benghazi in Eastern Libya. The lot included 400 Kalashnikovs, and 120 hand grenades, he said, adding that such weapons might have already reached the AQIM militants in Algeria.

    Some local newspapers had reported that Libyan authorities have opened a large-scale investigation in the theft of weapons from military barracks, without elaborating much on the incident.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502684_162-5057065-502684.html
     
  6. Omowale Jabali

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    Last week’s threats by the Libyan ruler about the popular revolt in Libya flamed by Al Qaeda Jihadists may have seem to be mere hallucinations. However, an insight into the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group leading the revolt, indicate its aims modeled on extreme Sunna (Wahhabi) principles, while ‘Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb’ has already set up an “Islamic Emirate” in eastern Libya, headed by a former Guantanamo prisoner…
    http://defense-update.com/wp/tag/aqim
     
  7. Omowale Jabali

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    This is where things get tricky.

    Read carefully.

    Since the first shots were fired in the armed rebellion against Muammar Gadhafi, opposition groups have accused the Libyan strongman of hiring black African mercenaries. These accusations led to public anger in rebel-held cities and brutal attacks by local Arabs against common laborers from sub-Saharan Africa, forcing many to hide indoors rather than risk walking to the borders.

    The mysterious dark-complexioned soldiers are with a secret commando unit trained under a Pentagon anti-terrorism project in Libya. Though their nationalities vary, the majority of these desert warriors are Tuaregs from the deep Sahara, including parts of Algeria, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso and Libya. These nomadic tribesmen, better known as the "blue men," are familiar figures on adventure programs from Discovery Channel and National Geographic, guiding camel caravans or herding sheep through the dunes and stony wastelands. In recent years, they have become the frontline fighters against the fugitive Osama bin Laden and the group Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM).At remote gunnery ranges outside of Sabha, a military town in the southwestern Fezzan region, the Tuareg commandos receive training from American special-forces instructors in automatic-weapons-handling, sniper marksmanship and communications. These masters of desert survival need no outside training in tracking and outmaneuvering the AQIM, who in the Sahara region are called the Salafists. The counter-terrorism cooperation between the U.S. and Libya, two countries with a history of rocky relations, is kept out of media view. Neither is this joint project ever mentioned in the U. S. Africa Command's Trans-Sahara Terrorism Program, which openly includes every other country of the vast arid region.

    Though the Libyan Tuaregs' clandestine mission is kept under wraps by the Pentagon, a similar taste of desert warfare can be gained (courtesy of WikiLeaks) from December 2009 diplomatic cables out of the U.S. Embassy in Bamako, Mali, describing a Timbuktu boot camp run by U.S. Army trainers from Fort Carson, Colorado. "The (Malian) colonel called over one rather unimpressive soldier, an older rail-thin man with a scraggly beard and bloodshot eyes who had been lounging against a motorbike, explaining that in spite of appearances this was one of his best men and noting that he had been one of the few survivors of a July 4 ambush of a Malian Army patrol by AQIM. The soldier said the Salafists would never confront the Army head-on, and if the Army engaged, they would flee, but if there is not proper security, they will creep back and murder you in the most cruel, unimaginable ways."

    The oldest veterans among the clandestine Libyan unit are re-enlistees from a long-since disbanded unit called the Islamic Pan-African Legion, which fought major battles against French forces in Chad during the 1980s. How these Tuareg fighters were regrouped and bolstered by younger tribesmen goes back to the beginnings of the Afghan War, immediately after the 9/11 attacks.

    http://www.empowernewsmag.com/listings.php?article=1830
     
  8. Omowale Jabali

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    The key here is knowing the history of how this split between the "blue men" and the Islamists occured to begin with. Its a long history which specifically came as a result of the failed movement and split within a group known as FROLINAT.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FROLINAT

    Musa and the most conservative elements of the FLT pulled out of the FROLINAT already at the end on 1966, but a dualism was always to remain between the socialist, anti-imperialist, even Pan-African UNT element and more the conservative and regionalist UGFT tradition. Another element of division consisted in the dualism between the two originary areas of the rebellion, that is Kanem and the East: the first region mainly attracting support from Chadians living in Egypt and the Central African Republic, the second mainly from Sudan.[5]

    With the forces of both groups combined began in the same year to operate in the mid-east of the country, under the direct command of Abatcha. Shortly after, in March 1968, a lieutenant of Abatcha, Mohammed Taher, instigated a mutiny by the Daza Toubou of the Nomad and National Guard (GNN) of Aozou, that was evacuated by the national army in September. Taher had already recruited militants among the Teda Toubou in the Borkou, and shortly after the Aozou mutiny obtained the support of Goukouni Oueddei, an influential figure among the Teda of the Tibesti and son of the derde of the Toubou, Oueddei Kichidemi. This extended the insurgency to the north and Toubou nomads, adding a new element of complexity to the rebellion and bringing in the support to the movement of the Chadians living in Libya, and especially the students of the Islamic University of al-Bayda.[6]

    Wait a minute....Goukouni Oueddi.

    Chad: In 1981, the administration formally decided to supply Hissene Habre in his attempt to overthrow the government of Goukouni Oueddei. Through the CIA, Habre was supplied with money, arms and ammunition, and other equipment. "The operation was coordinated with Egypt,...which furnished Habre with weapons and ammunition in exchange for U.S. replacements.'' Sudan provided a base of operations and a supply-line. American commitment increased several times during 1981, ending with a total of about $10 million. In June 1982 Habre's men "took control of N'Djamena, the capital of Chad, and set up a provisional government."


    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/CIA/Reagan_CIA.html
     
  9. Omowale Jabali

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    Lets now take a closer look at Kadafi's "Islamic Pan-African Legion".

    Gaddafi, who had come to power in September 1969, was not only a Pan-Africanist, but an Arab cultural supremacist. His hostility to Chad's government of President François Tombalbaye was at least partly inspired by Tombalbaye's African and Christian background. It also led Gaddafi to drive the Toubou of Libya, who were considered 'black', off Fezzan and across the Chadian border. Gaddafi supported the Sudanese government of Gaafar Nimeiry, referring to it as an "Arab Nationalist Revolutionary Movement", and even offered to merge the two countries at a meeting in late 1971. Gaddafi's plans for the peaceful formation of an "Arab Union" were dashed when Nimeiry turned down his offer and negotiated the Addis Ababa Agreement ending the First Sudanese Civil War, fought with the black animist and Christian South.[3] Gaddafi's definition of "Arab" was broad, including the Tuareg of Mali and Niger, as well as the Zaghawa of Chad and Sudan.[4]

    In 1972, Gaddafi created the Islamic Legion as a tool to unify and Arabize the region. The priority of the Legion was first Chad, and then Sudan. In Darfur, a western province of Sudan, Gaddafi supported the creation of the Arab Gathering (Tajammu al-Arabi), which according to Gérard Prunier was "a militantly racist and pan-Arabist organization which stressed the 'Arab' character of the province."[1] The two organizations shared members and a source of support, and the distinction between the two is often ambiguous.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Legion
     
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    Gaddafi is a mad man and will not step down. Again the western countries are on murder mission and will spread their propaganda across the world. Look at what they did to Iraq and Afghanistan?
     
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