Black People : Is Ferguson tipping point for black Americans?

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  1. Kadijah

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    I've noted in a couple threads that there seems to be something 'different' about the uprising in Ferguson, that unlike most uprisings in the 21st century, this one is sustained (in most, cops kill a black man, folk riot, loot, it's over). This article suggests that the riot "may" be turning into a Movement:

    This is particularly interesting:

    This opinion will warm the cockels of James and Kemestry's hearts (lol) :

     
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    What is your opinion on all of this?
     
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    Moment or Movement, it can go either way. Like I said, that the protests in Ferguson are being sustained, strikes me as different from other white cop/black male murders in recent years.

    Because it's ALL ABOUT cops killing young black men (as opposed to "boycotting" non-black businesses :huh: ) I can't muster up much hope for substantive change. Cops killing off young black men is only an outcome of the Powers that Be DIRECTIVES to keep the black community in check, a colony of white America. It is their JOB to be an occupying force in our communities, not... NEVER to serve and protect our people. Which goes to this:

    Which goes to this:

    In short, I am not hopeful that anything much will come out this latest killing; that Michael Brown WON'T go down in history as simply a footnote in a savaged people's history. :10500:

    But then, I'm sure that's what most black people thought with the maiming, mutilation and murder of Emmit Till.... whom Rosa Parks says she was thinking about a couple years later when she refused to give up her seat to a white man on the bus.

    Time will tell. If the people of Ferguson can keep up their outrage at Michael Brown's murder until the trial.... and like Zimmerman, the cop is found "not guilty" (he has a defense fund that according to James, is over $300,000.... and counting), there is a possibility that rioting will re-erupt.... in which TPTB, no fools they, will throw a couple jobs and a few dollars at Ferguson to cool emotions and prevent grassroots leadership from developing. If they succeed, it will keep Michael Brown's murder confined to Ferguson, rather than cast light on the U.S.-wide problem of white cops killing young black males that it is.

    If black people don't fall for the ole okey-dokey (white money and the white women TPTB will flood into Ferguson), any movement that comes out of it will not be about the Civil Rights of black Americans.... it will be a HUMAN Rights Movement. JMO
     
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    I think I agree on all points. I do hope that boycotting non-black businesses comes from the this movement. We need to take back everything we put into this society starting with our money.
     
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    How does boycotting local convenience stores address the issue of cop-killings of young, black men? :huh:
     
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    Cops killing young Black men is the tip of YTs evil. This movement will demand complete change. Fair wages, fair opportunity, unfair incarnation, racial profiling the list goes on laws that unfairly affect us. The list goes on and on.
     
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    tipping point?

    of course not.

    heard it all before.. seen it all before.. and it does not matter what the people that don't have the guns do..
    and the people without the guns know that.. and as soon as they can find an escape activity.. they will take it.

    enter.. The NFL season.

    and that will be that..

    #watch.
     
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    Maybe. But then, like I said before, blacks had seen it all before when Emmit Till was murdered in Money, MS. Then in comes Rosa Parks, daydreaming on the bus...

    For those of us not in Ferguson, it's a wait and see.... if they call us for help. ;)
     
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    come on Kadijah... not you too..

    you don't buy that.. we marched and overcame narrative.. do you?

    the civil rights act of 1964 was a response to the activities of our people.. and it was not a reward. That bill economically gutted our communities in order to weaken us.. our leadership was completely dismantled.. murdered.. exiled.. locked-away.. defeated.. in order to weaken us.. for the sake of preventing any further organized disruption from black people. That Rosa Parks narrative that they taught us in school was bullsh.. then.. and it's bullsh.. now.. we never overcame.
     
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    How you feel about the Civil Rights Movement is irrelevant. That it was a Movement of black people coming together to fight for a cause is what is relevant to THIS discussion.

    I'm not going by any "narrative" taught to me in school. My source is Rosa Parks, herself. Those are HER words, i.e., she was sitting on the bus thinking about Emmit Till's murder when she was told to get up and give a white man her seat.
     
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    If anything POSITIVE comes out of Ferguson, it will be this (petition from Change.Org):


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    Our police officers are not our military. Yet military weapons meant for battlefields like the ones I served on as an Army Officer in the Gulf War are being transferred to local police departments around the country. Put simply, these weapons are not intended for local policing and often result in escalating - not solving - situations. We’re seeing this right now in Ferguson, Missouri.

    Many of the weapons being sent to small police departments are coming directly from the Pentagon through the 1033 Weapons Transfer Program. Since its creation, at least $4 billion worth of equipment has been distributed to local police departments through this program.

    Thankfully, the Senate Armed Services Committee is reviewing the Weapons Transfer Program to evaluate how these weapons are being used. However, there’s no reason to continue sending weapons through the program while it's under review. So I’m calling on Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to temporarily suspend the 1033 Weapons Transfer Program - something he has the power to do.

    When local police departments have access to armored personnel carriers, mine-resistant ambush protected vehicles, M-4 rifles, camouflage uniforms and assault rifles - we’re clearly seeing the militarization of local law enforcement. But police officers are not at war with American citizens - they are here to serve and protect us. But it only makes sense that if we arm them like soldiers going into battle, they will act like soldiers.

    As a veteran and executive director of Veterans For Peace, I don't want to see our police militarized here at home. And I know many other troops and veterans agree.
    The program has been suspended before in 2012, when some states actually lost track of military equipment. You read that correctly, these battlefield weapons have actually gone missing before. Yet the program was quietly restarted in 2013. It’s clearly time for a moratorium on the 1033 program while it is under review.
     
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