Black People : Is Eminent Domain happening in your hood? White developers, snatching Black homes?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    This has gone on currently around Columbia U. under so called states rights, and the stereotype of "ghetto blight"

    Has this happened in your local Black urban, suburban or rural community?
     
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    Yep!

    Temple University in the North
    Drexel and U of Pa in the West

    Places becoming regular ole ghost towns:ghost:
    "BlueLight Districts" I call them. Everybody getting Special deals with those blue lights flashing on bout every corner.

    M.E.
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    I don't know how they are acquiring the properties, but I see "revitalization" projects all the time. House by house they are bought, renovated, and then the whites move in. The former occupants are usually shipped off to one side of town. The projects have been closing for years, as vouchers have taken over.
     
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    Eminent domain (United States, Canada), compulsory purchase (United Kingdom, New Zealand, Ireland), resumption/compulsory acquisition (Australia) or expropriation (South Africa and Canada's common law systems) is the inherent power of the state to seize a citizen's private property, expropriate property, or seize a citizen's rights in property with due monetary compensation, but without the owner's consent.

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    End eminent domain abuse: N.Y.'s highest court should rule against Bruce Ratner
    BY Dana Berliner

    Sunday, August 23rd 2009, 3:55 PM
    Related NewsGonzalez: Brooklyn couple wants Gov. Paterson to stop Ratner's eminent domain winEditorial: A Net gain for BrooklynLipsky: N.Y., learn from New LondonState makes major concession on Deegan ramp fixupNo eminent domain for Columbia University expansion: courtEditorial: Total condemnationIn recent years, New York has earned the dubious distinction of being one of thenation's worst abusers ofeminent domain. The Empire State Development Corp. (ESDC) and localities have approved condemnation of property for a huge range of wealthy private entities, including the New York Stock Exchange, Costco, Stop & Shop and Columbia University. The latest outrage is the effort by the Empire State Development Corp. to take homes and other private property for Bruce Ratner's Atlantic Yards stadium development.

    There are owners who don't want to sell and residents who don't want to move, but the ESDC has used the power of eminent domain to force everyone to leave. The government is supposed to pay owners "just compensation" for the property, but the owner has no choice: not about whether to keep property and not about how much to sell it for.

    Not only is this un-American, it is unconstitutional.

    There may, however, finally be light at the end of a very dark tunnel. In October, the New York Court of Appeals, the state's highest court, will hear the legal challenge of Brooklyn residents and businesses looking to block the use of eminent domain to build Atlantic Yards.

    It has been more than a generation since the state's highest court has interpreted the New York Constitution's provision that property may be taken only for "public use." It's time for the court to take a long, hard look - before more damage is done.

    The fundamental legal question is whether the state should go along with the notorious 2005 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court in Kelo vs. City of New London. In that ruling, the court said that using eminent domain for potential job creation, increased taxes or general economic development does not violate the U.S. Constitution. In the firestorm of outrage that followed, 43 states changed their laws to make eminent domain for private development either more difficult or impossible.

    New York remains one of only seven that have not.

    It is true that, after Kelo, the U.S. Constitution itself gives little or no protection to home or business owners. But that document is a floor for individual rights, not a ceiling. State constitutions can protect rights above that baseline. For instance, when the U.S. Supreme Court refuses to protect people's rights to freedom of speech or freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures, state high courts often step in, finding that state constitutions offer greater protection.

    That is exactly what has happened in many states since Kelo. The high courts of Hawaii, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Missouri, New Jersey and Rhode Island have all ruled that property owners within their borders have greater protections against eminent domain abuse. None has made Kelo the rule under the state constitution.

    The New York Court of Appeals should follow this trend.

    If New York adopts the Kelo rule - that anyone's home, business or church can be taken if someone else might be able to make more money off that land - then no one is safe. New York's Constitution was meant to prevent this kind of routine violation of people's rights. If Ratner wants someone's property, he should buy it on the market - not with the government acting as a real estate agent on steroids, forcing out the rightful owners.

    Plus, developers and their government allies often overpromise and underdeliver on the so-called public benefits. The City of New London claimed all sorts of benefits from the Kelo project; now, four years after the Supreme Court decision, not one single thing has been built on the land that was taken from homeowners. After the Michigan Supreme Court allowed condemnation for economic development, an entire neighborhood was bulldozed for a GM plant. The project didn't come close to living up to its promises.



    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions...4_end_eminent_domain_abuse.html#ixzz0Z6yDktJK
     
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    they tried to do it where i live but we raised so much heck that they backed off
     
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    That is a reaction folks need to learn to emulate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    BTW: we had a collation of black, white and asian.......
     
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    where you upset about the whites being involved?
     
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    nope.....

    in a firefight i tend to accept anyone who is shooting in the same direction that i am....
     
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    That mite be a prophetic statement,

    no bs,

    who knows?
     
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