Black People : Is Dictatorship better then Democracy for Black people?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Kwame Nkhrumah, Julius Nyere, Patrice Lumumba all struggled against those serving European interests that tried to silence the outrageof the masses.
    They struggled to estblish democracy in Africa which would have a ripple effect in creating a system of pan Africanism, where every person even in the most remote areas would have a voice in the government of where they lived.

    After they were deposed or liquidated by the CIA public services provided by the government, like free education and hospitals, were all privatized.
    The first thing that was taken over was the press,
    and all manner of protesting for right or speaking out against corruption was, met

    and in some places is still met with torture and execution.
     
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    "Is Dictatorship better then Democracy for black people?"

    Good dictatorship or bad dictorship?

    My point is,

    That it's a matter of how these concepts manifest themselves.
    In any event, if either don't benefit a people, do justice by a people,
    then both or subject to ridcule...
     
  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    OK so what is better for Black folks death or life?
    (I said that instead of good or evil cause folks know how long the rhetoric will flow on that one)

    would have been nice to give an example of a good dictator but......
     
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    To be honest, if you look throughout history, the only people who have managed to move things from chaos to order in a relatively short period of time have been dictators, kings and emperors. Different types of government are needed for different people at different stages of their development. Right now we need benevolent dictators until we have sustain strong enough democracies.
     
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    Are you aware of any societies which have transitioned from dictators to democracies without bloodshed?
     
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    From what I've seen, I can inquire...is there a difference?
     
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    It is intersting

    when Fizzle brains made this statement


    George W. Bush, July 26, 2001

    "If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier, there's no question about it, as long as I was the dictator".
    as president, the difference between the 2 was very clear, but now with a Harvard scholar as president.......questions do arise
     
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    Theory versus reality...remember? Apparently, 'fizzle brains' was right. In a dictatorship, only one calls the shots such that a particular agenda is perpetuated. In a democracy, that agenda is complicated because more are involved. However, they both involve specific agendas that typically have nothing to do with the well being and empowerment of the masses.



     
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    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    From what you say about democracy,
    I guess the local politicians in your area are doing a lousy job, or not allowing the voters to have contact with them to hear what they have to say.

    As a jazz lover, I felt the same way about Hip hop until I heard Immortal Technique.

    But I rrecall hearing Dr Clarke or Professor Simons, at a UAM lecture oce say that we had democracy long before the Greeks and the traditional,
    aspect of a chief or king was someone who never spoke, to his people.

    Once a month he would have every single adult in his village line up,
    and make their claim, comendation or complaint,
    and he was judged to be a good leader or not by how well he solved the complaints, and kept those things comendd, running smoothly.

    He was not absolute but in many areas of West Africa, was able to be voted out of office by a council of elder women, if he was found to be at any time avaricious, incompetent , or acting outside of code law and tradition, so even though there was a hereditary head of state; he definatly was not a dictator,

    and there definatly was a system of direct community input and involvement.
     
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    To be honest, if you look throughout history, the only people who have managed to move things from chaos to order in a relatively short period of time have been dictators, kings and emperors. Different types of government are needed for different people at different stages of their development. Right now we need benevolent dictators until we have sustain strong enough democracies

    The above is true Only problem is that Dictators, Kings, and Emperors hate to let go of the power they have. Don’t recall any that have done so.

    Full Speed
    Are you aware of any societies which have transitioned from dictators to democracies without bloodshed?

    Not that I am aware of. And this includes those that claim to have been elected. Even though they had no opposition.
     
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