Black People : is destee vulnerable to right wing trolls ?

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  1. jamesfrmphilly

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    has the welcoming and open policy of destee made us vulnerable to the far right trolls for trump ?

    material sourced from bribart and d'sousa is posted here. these people are far right and hate black people.

    are all those posting here claiming to be pro black actually black at all ?

    is it possible that we are too open and too loving ?

    i am a real person. i can be verified.

    there are very few actual black people who support trump.

    how is it that there is such a strong consistent pro trump presence at destee ?

    i am concerned...
     
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  2. Destee

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    hi Brother James ... :love:

    There is some opinion that on the surface would be considered a violation of our peace and purpose.

    But none of the above rises to that level ... not that i have seen yet anyway.

    I remember back when everyone was downing Obama ... i could not stand it.

    I actually felt it was a violation of our rules, but i could not act that way regarding it.

    It was a lot of long time Members that were feeling this way and posting about it.

    It was not new Members joining and posting some kraziness ... so i had to let them have their opinion.

    I have seen a lot of political talk that i might not agree with, but there's no violation in that.

    Add too that most of what is being posted is by long time Members, not some new person walking in trying to spam us with rhetoric that would not otherwise be found here. If that were the case, new Members joining spewing their stuff all over the place, then yes ... i'd look closer ... but right now it's all long time Members ... :lol:

    If that is what they believe and what they want to propagate and perpetuate ... we can't really be mad.

    I have not seen a rule violation yet.

    Don't worry Brother James ... when we need to batten down the hatches ... i'm ready ... :guard:

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    In fact Brother James ... back when folk were all on Obama negatively

    my only recourse was to fight them in the threads

    challenge them in the discussions regarding what they were saying

    i even made a video about it ... because i could not ban them

    but i let them know ... that i would be challenging them at every turn





    my time is limited now ... but if i were gonna i'd have to use the same avenue ... challenge it in the discussions

    we cannot ban an opinion, unless it is of the rare variety that does in fact violate our reason for being

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    so if the stuff is pushed thru a long term member it is ok ?
    if you ever have the time maybe you could check where some of this stuff is coming from.
     
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    As long as the information is not breaking a rule, it is okay - new or long term Member - the same applies.

    I mentioned new Member because they are less likely to get away with foolishness, but this applies to all.

    I think this policy speaks to this :

    Everyone is Welcome Here - Even if Their Opinion is Diametrically Opposed to Yours and Mine

    Your concern reminds me of when the first "devil" "satan" "demon" talk was posted here ... :eeek:

    I was not feeling it ... but it's really just opinion and in and of itself, cannot hurt us.

    We probably do more harm trying to keep opposing opinion out, than letting it in.

    Just don't click on / read / participate in the discussions that do not interest you.

    Let me know if you have more questions.

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    so if a member wants to post a bunch of KKK stuff it's ok ?
    you are confident that all members are actually members ?

    do you check for trolls ?
     
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    Actually ... if i saw things that looked like kkk stuff ... i'd probably get rid of it ... i have before.

    The thing with that is that it / they have evolved and are not always as blatant as in times past.

    So it would be easy to label something that way, that is not, and likewise, think something isn't, that is.

    It's not always an easy call to make, especially in an environment like ours, public and open to all.

    I can think of MANY things, MANY discussions, that one Member finds kkk-ish - but was not a violation.

    They are not easy calls to make. I would have to view each situation independently and decide.

    With the policy that i shared with you above, it means that i must live up to that.

    Which means the violating content has to really be over the top and offensive to our very purpose.

    The Trump campaign, those who run it, the so called alt-right, they have black people on their side too.

    I've seen them on the news and even here we have evidence of folk leaning in their favor.

    My main goal is to stay true to our purpose, our mission, and it clearly says we are all welcome here.

    So unless something is very egregious, totally over the top, cannot be looked over ... it can stay.

    Again, these are decisions made on a case by case basis.

    If a Member is posting such, been here awhile, never caused problems ... i will give them benefit of doubt.

    Trust me Brother James ... it has not been easy getting to 19 years of everyone is welcome.

    I challenge myself, our rules, policies, decisions, to live up to our mission ... even when i'd rather do otherwise.

    I challenge myself to make sure i'm not mistreating someone because i disagree with them and their position.

    This speaks to the very heart of who we are - what this community is about - so decisions are not made lightly.

    I trust that all Members are Members - they registered and joined - each one in the same manner.

    For that, I will treat them all respectfully and expect that they treat us the same.

    If you see anything different than that, let me know.

    We do not have trolls here - we have Members.

    If someone is exhibiting troll like behavior they become former Members - not trolls.

    Troll is calling someone a name - which is a violation of our rules.

    If someone is breaking the rules - they are a Member breaking the rules - not a troll.

    I don't even like that word - probably because i don't like calling folk names or hearing that done.

    Just say it's a Member breaking the rules - if that is the case - and point to the rule being broken.

    I Love You Brother James! ... :hearts1:

    Let me know if you have more questions.

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    Destee
     
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    Brother jamesfrmphilly ... hi ... :love:

    yes, we are vulnerable due to our open policy ... but neither are new

    i have banned some folk already and will be banning more i'm sure

    everyone do tread carefully ... if you want to stay

    love you!

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    how do you do that thing with the user name ?
     
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    Just type an @ symbol before the Member's name ... like ...

    @ destee ... or ... @ jamesfrmphilly .... but don't leave a space

    i don't think you can do your own name ... that was just an example

    when you type the @ ... and the Member's name ... a list will pop up where you can click the Member's name and not type it all out ...

    let me know if you have any problem with it

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