Black People : Is Black Nationalism a Dead Issue?

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  1. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Now that the Black community is under attack from infancy to geriatric,
    and that now we have the funds, the technological communications availability,to

    1 create our own prenatal care
    2 unify to have a Black education tutorial and enrichment program for inner city youth
    3 African centered organiztions for and by teens, that would provide the brotherly love and support they now seek in gangs
    4 collective black economi safety nets and job creation
    5 community development ,renewal and regentrification prevention
    6 Black collective voting strategies, collective candidate support or boycott
    7 self sufficiency eucation, hunting, fishing, foraging community food gargdening and block by block food storage and pantries
    8 community patrol of our communities
    9 elderly support visitation, pharmacy and ambulatory assistance
    10 collective investment in African industry and precious metals
     
  2. Ikoro

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    Peace Brother.

    I read your post as; 'now that we have the possibility off doing all this (1-10), is black nationalism a dead issue?'

    Hope I did not misunderstand.

    Every point that you list here, leads me to think that black nationalism is more alive than ever. Or, theoritically, should be. Furthermore, every point that you list is a extension of black nationalism.

    Maybe the question is, how do you envision Black Nationalism? What does it look like to you? Is it point 1 - 10 being put into effect?


    I don't live in the States, but it is clear to me that Black Nationalism isn't really on my people's minds. But I could be wrong.

    One,

    - Ikoro
     
  3. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    True my brother and it hurts to see that we are not focused on these issues or even Pan Africanism that says everytime your Black folks in Oslo get a cut or a bruise, I suffer that pain as well
     
  4. jamesfrmphilly

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    if it ain't dead it's on life support somewhere..........
     
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    It's a possibility but some people just don't want it. They're content with how they live. I think more communities need to try #3 on your list. Some black youths feel that a gang is the only place they feel they "belong" and that's not true.
     
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    Peace fam.

    You are right about #3, but truth is it is hard.

    I am in one such organization, and I can tell you that getting young Afrikan males into an organization to talk about solutions and not just complain: no joke. We have a board consisting of 8 youths, one is male (not me, I am daily manager so not part of the board).

    Joining an organization which is serious about liberation, Afrikan history, anti- or counter-racism is HARD in a society where most of our people emulate the racist ways of the whites, and even view themselves thru the eyes of people that hate us.

    Being pro-black or Afrikan centred simply is not cool, swagg or what-have-you.

    I'd love to hear somebody tell me about how to suceed in that respect, because I live and breathe #3 - that's on MY LIFE. I killed myself over this youth organization, put my own money out, postponed studies - all of it. But I am not making way, progress etc. Youths have been pacified, and they don't wanna speak out or even stand out as more black than they have to be (see: assimilition/'integration').

    But this list is on point.

    One,

    - Ikoro
     
  7. Ankhur

    Ankhur Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Therfore is the interest or focus there enough to resucitate it?

    Becuase if these principles are ever needed by the Black community iit is right now!!!
    Why sit and wiat until the cuts come and the new fascist regime comes into power in 2012????
     
  8. garlicsalt99

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    Like ingredient for a cake, you have the elements needed for a sustainable black nationalist movement, but like the cake you need to combine the elements, the put the elements under heat and pressure to form. A lot of us here in the states are pacified with relative success and don't feel the urgency to push a black nationalist movement ... that doesn't mean that groups like The Nation of Islam and the Black Panther Party shouldn't try. To get people more involved it's going to take a series of events that people can't ignore for us to band together and make headway towards a black nationalist agenda.

    Also, not enough of us -- myself included -- know about people like Eldrige Cleaver, Bobby Seal, John Huggins, Alprentice "Bunchie" Carter, Stokely Carmichael, Medgar Evers, Huey Newton, Angela Davis and a host of strong personalities that were revolutionary minded for the purpose of seeing our people do better. Their struggle took real commitment ... jail time and death commitment.

    Are people resolved to commit themselves to the cause of black nationalism, because it does come at a cost.
     
  9. Clyde C Coger Jr

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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    .......Well said garlicsalt99, well said indeed; you speak truth to power.

    Peace In,
     
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    I couldn't have said it better!!

    To add to this, it will take alot more Unity than is being displayed in our communities. I think that it will be next to impossible to build this nation when the majority of our people don't even want to do the work or be citizens!!
     
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