Black Spirituality Religion : Interreligious Dialogue in Black Africa Among Christianity, Islam and ATR's

[spicybrown]

Dual Karnayn: "Chinese don't even profess to believe in God but both Christians AND Muslims hesitate to step to China. Wonder why?"


This is because historically, religion, and the belief in 1 god as the supreme being has been abused in so many ways as a ploy to control certain populations. The Chinese probably do believe in 1 supreme being. However, they are smart, they don't wear their emotions on their sleeve, thus garnering them respect worldwide, and leaving the doors of religious exploitation closed. So if ever in a strife, they won't be anyones religious voo-doo/mind control "experiment".

 

[Omowale Jabali]

Dual Karnayn: "Chinese don't even profess to believe in God but both Christians AND Muslims hesitate to step to China. Wonder why?"


This is because historically, religion, and the belief in 1 god as the supreme being has been abused in so many ways as a ploy to control certain populations. The Chinese probably do believe in 1 supreme being. However, they are smart, they don't wear their emotions on their sleeve, thus garnering them respect worldwide, and leaving the doors of religious exploitation closed. So if ever in a strife, they won't be anyones religious voo-doo/mind control "experiment".

http://christianityinchina.org

 

[Sekhemu]

Omowale



One thing we must understand is that Ancestral religions and so-called "Earth" religions in which the elements are honored are not unique to Africa.

The Druids, Celts, Vikings and other Europeans practiced the same concepts as the Africans....before the Roman Empire swept through with Christianity and drove many of the practices underground.

This didn't happen in Africa on the scale it did in Europe becuase Africa was too vast of a continent and when people were getting oppressed they simply escaped further south.

That's how our ancestors ended up all over the continent in the first place.


So we must first understand that much of what we think is "African" is really not African at all but just old-world polytheistic beliefs practiced the world over.

Africans had one name for it, Europeans had another name, Native Americans had another. and Asians had a different name...but they all involved veneration of ancestors, divination, and shammans.


Monotheism swept through wiping a lot of it out.



Having said that...

If you can convince me that white people returning to their practices before Roman Christians invaded and forced them to accept Christianity would be better for them.

I will entertain the idea of going back to our ancient practices.






Sekemu

So you don't think "Traditionalists" attaining more power is the solution?

You think that Muslim and Christians in charge should just soften thier hearts and just accept all others on GP?


I'm trying to figure out what you believe the solution should be.

One thing that I need to correct you on is that ATR's are not polytheistic. Period. This is precisely what the author of the article was pointing out when he referred to most of the books written about ATRs are written by christian or muslims,from a Muslim and Christian perspective, by authors who have never been a part of an ATR. This is part of the ongoing cycle of ignorance.

Secondly, ATR's are exactly that, African Traditional Religions, and they were African spiritual systems before any other race walked the planet. So please do not appropiate our legacy to other people.

Dual, you remind of a former member of this forum named Ralf, unfortunately or fortunately he got banned.

You think that Muslim and Christians in charge should just soften their hearts and accept all others on GP

No, I expect Muslims and Christians to treat their African Brothers who have done no harm to them to treat them the way their religions leaders and doctrines teach them to treat all mankind, whether they are in charge or not.

I'm trying to figure out what you believe the solution should be

Solidarity, irrespective of spiritual and religous beliefs, after all this is what the theme of this thread is about.

 

[Sekhemu]

Dual Karnayn: "Chinese don't even profess to believe in God but both Christians AND Muslims hesitate to step to China. Wonder why?"


This is because historically, religion, and the belief in 1 god as the supreme being has been abused in so many ways as a ploy to control certain populations. The Chinese probably do believe in 1 supreme being. However, they are smart, they don't wear their emotions on their sleeve, thus garnering them respect worldwide, and leaving the doors of religious exploitation closed. So if ever in a strife, they won't be anyones religious voo-doo/mind control "experiment".

Chinese don't even profess to believe in God but both Christians and Muslims hesitate to step to China, wonder why?

Good points, however there have been attempts by both groups to make some in roads as far as conversion, with varying degress of success. I think your point would be more applicable with respect to Japan, who resisted the Jesuits for hundreds of years

Europeans and to a lesser degree Arabs have not only been masters of colonizing people and their lands, but also masters of colonizing information. Once you have control of information (including propaganda) then you have control over the way people think.

You can kill a man but how easy is it to kill and idea. Case in point, the Palestinians are convinced that the Zionist have confiscated their lands, illegally. The Israelis routinely bomb their homes, throw their men and women in prison, deprive them of every human right imaginable, but because of their religious beliefs and convictions the Palestinians remain steadfast and refuse to surrender, fighting the Israelis with everything they have.

 

[spicybrown]

Omowalejabeli:

Your thread does show that Christian Fellowship was established in the mid-90's. However, this does not explain the miniscule Christian population of China in precolonial days-before the 15th century. The Chinese culture is very hard to penetrate. Even if they had their own monolithic practices, they were United in one primary aspect: their ancient culture. Invaders who were under the guise of religion, probably studied the Chinese history, and found out they didn't play that, sinced they had kept invaders out for centuries with the Great Wall. This is why I believe the 'unbrushed' cultures have survived to this very day-Unity.