Black Spirituality Religion : Intelligent Scientists 'Expelled' by Illuminati

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    by Henry Makow, Ph.D.

    If you needed confirmation that humanity is satanically possessed, rent Ben Stein's 2008 documentary, "Expelled - No Intelligence Allowed."

    It documents how scientists who see an intelligent force at work in nature are being fired from their jobs.

    They are being slandered as "Creationists" and religious fundamentalists. Any mention of "Intelligent Design" is forbidden.

    Isn't this appalling? Science is supposed to explain the complex intelligence manifest in the natural world, not deny that it exists.

    The offending scientists are not "religious." They simply know that a single cell is more complex than an atom bomb. Obviously, an amazing intelligence is at work. Call it God or Intelligent Design. Call it "John Doe" - but you can't deny it!

    Some people think I'm a Christian or a religious Jew. I am neither. Like these scientists, I can see the obvious. Creation is a miracle which didn't happen by accident. It's governed by laws which scientists and metaphysicians are supposed to discern.

    But mention "intelligent design" today and your career is over. Why are "secularists" so afraid of intelligent design?

    Because they're funded by the Illuminati, (Rockefellers, Rothschilds etc.) who are Satanists. Satanists fear that acceptance of this "intelligence" will interfere with the makeover they're giving humanity. They think they are God.

    Secularism pretends to be about freedom and tolerance but that's a ruse. It is Satanism in disguise and nothing freaks a Satanist more than
    the rumor of God or anything resembling Him.

    Watch the trailer! The secularists are more fanatical than any religious cult. They are a satanic cult. They deny the obvious! They have to expel scientists! They have to stop free inquiry and debate!

    http://www.henrymakow.com/expelled.html
     
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    .......Yes, yes, yes...excellent post sister noor100, excellent post,

    It will not be long now:)...Seriously though, there is a better name used over satanism, and generally hidden from common consumption which sets the agenda, Humanism. Wrote on this awhile back, here is the link for your review, if you like:
    http://destee.com/forums/showpost.php?p=455972&postcount=77

    And what makes this so funny to me now is the heat taken for just sharing the information...Peace In my sister friend, for real.

     
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    I've seen the "documentary", and it was quite poor. The claims were rubbish and there was a constant tinge of intellectual dishonesty throughout the entire thing. Anything that doesn't agree with his views gets misrepresented into a grotesque strawman that Benstein thought made it easier to attack. These tactics ranged from subtle fallacies to outright lying (inventing and editing Darwin quotes). As for his claims about scientist being denied tenure or censored, they were complete B.S. There's been plenty of good criticism offered up already about the film.

    Even by creationist fundamentalist standards, it was pretty poor form.
     
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    Your post sounds impressive Gorilla, but lacking substance. Is it possible to support the following with evidence? In other words show and prove the following assertions:

    1. The claims were rubbish and there was a constant tinge of intellectual dishonesty throughout the entire thing.

    2. Anything that doesn't agree with his views gets misrepresented into a grotesque strawman that Benstein thought made it easier to attack.

    3. These tactics ranged from subtle fallacies to outright lying (inventing and editing Darwin quotes).

    4. As for his claims about scientist being denied tenure or censored, they were complete B.S.

    5. There's been plenty of good criticism offered up already about the film. Even by creationist fundamentalist standards, it was pretty poor form.




    And take your time, there is no rush. The underlined is basically what I'm looking for.

     
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    No need to rush.

    I'll knock out the first three using an example about Darwin that shows misrepresentation, dishonesty, malicious editing and quote mining:

    Quote from the Descent of Man used in the film.

    Actual passage:
    The next sentence in the book:

    This serious misrepresentation of Darwin's writing was used to try and relate it to the holocaust. Ironically, the antisemitism came from religion and the religious in Europe. It was around long before Darwin and long after him.

    Source that includes more criticisms and commentary on deceptive tactics of the film-makers:
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=six-things-ben-stein-doesnt-want-you-to-know

    The original book in its full text is available online:
    http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/2300


    For #4, Do scientist get censored and denied tenure for their religious belief? Hardly.

    An example I can think of off the top of my head is Francis Collins, who has had an amazing career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Collins

    He writes arguments for faith openly and has several science books under his belt: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=francis+collins&x=0&y=0

    There are scientist who are religious, and seem to compartmentalize when doing their work. If Collins applied to teach at a University and then for tenure, he'd have no problems. He's also never been censored. Criticism is not the same as censorship.

    A good starting point for the people in the film:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed#The_.22Expelled.22

    I think one of them is even penning a book now (Crocker).

    Number 5
    is my own opinion, but if you'd like to find criticism about the film it can easily be googled. Here's one I particularly like:
    http://movies.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/movies/18expe.html
     
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    Slow down Gorilla:),

    Let's keep this simple, please list each contention(in blue) separately followed by your resources, references and comments. Myself and viewers should be afforded clarity of understanding without going back and forth connecting the dots. Again, keep it simple, knocking out the first three with trailers to follow isn't professional, especially when you've been told to take your time, there is no rush.

    In fact, I'm waiting for your full organized argument before digesting the fragments.

     
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    That was it. My criticism was that it was poorly done and full of dishonesty.

    I see no need to do the first three separately since that one particular example meets all of their criteria.

    4 and 5 were unique enough to do separately and I did.
     
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    .......Okay, I see the corrections now, thanks. Just a little busy now, give me a minute to digest and reply (actually, I'm in Chat listening to Elaine Brown).

     
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    I don't keep a stop-watch. I'm pretty sure everyone is going about their business as usual. No need to rush reply to anything I ever type.
     
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    After reviewing links, comments and sources provided in support of the (5) assertions, expectantly, opponents of Intelligent Design, as well as yourself, seem to miss the political ramifications intended by the film; and instead argue Intelligent Design is not legitimate science, on the basis of no peer reviewed articles. There is simply no attempt at debunking the idea of Irreducible Complexity or Specified Complexity.

    Sorry, but I reject out of hand your contentions as insignificant and irrelevant, Gorilla.

     
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