Black Spirituality Religion : In Veda God is said to be both Sat and Asat

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    Ubhayatra Sadasat Samanvayah.

    (In Veda and Gita the words Sat and Asat are used in contradicting sense, but they can be correlated to mean the same by logical discussion.)

    In Veda God is said to be both Sat and Asat (Sadeva Somya.., Asadvaa…). But in Gita God represented by Para Brahman is said to be neither Sat nor Asat (Nasat Naasaduchyate). This appears to be a contradiction between Veda and Gita. Sat means existence. Asat means non-existence. Let us take Veda. When God is Sat, it means God is not Asat. Similarly, when God is Asat, it means God is not sat. Hence, the resulting concept in each statement of Veda combined gives the concept of Gita. Thus, Veda and Gita are correlated because Gita is said to be the essence of all Vedas.

    Jneyapurvaastitvaabhaavashcha Vidyate cha Shruteh.

    (The existence of Para Brahman is not the existence of non-God items in which the knowledge of the non-God items is a prerequisite condition. Para Brahman exists as per the statement of Veda).

    All the non-God items are worldly objects, which are parts of creation. All these items are known first and then only their existence is mentioned. When you say that a pot exists, it means that you are stating the existence since you know the pot already. Hence, the existence of any worldly item requires the knowledge of that item already. If you do not know anything about an item, you will not say that it exists. Hence, the existence always requires the prior knowledge of the item. But God is beyond world and is unimaginable since God is not known. Hence, the existence of God is not similar to the existence of the worldly items. Since the existence of worldly items, which requires prior knowledge of the item, is absent in the case of God, God can be said as an item not having the existence of worldly items and hence God is non-existent (Asat) in this sense. This does not mean that God is really non-existent because God really exists as per Veda (Astityeva….) and hence God exists (Sat).

    Amnaayaat na pratimaa bhutejyaagaanat cha.

    (Veda says that God is not in the statue. Gita also says that those who worship the inert five elements will be born as inert elements).

    Veda says that God does not exist in the statue (Natasya Pratimaa). The statue is only the representative model of God and God does not exist in the inert statue. Similarly, the inert energy like light etc. Gita also says that those who worship the inert matter and energy (inert five elements) are born as inert objects in the world (Bhutejya yaanti…). Hence, the medium into which God enters is not inert but is a living being which is mainly characterized by awareness. The body of the living being is inert but a living being is mainly characterized by life, mind etc., which is awareness.

    Jnanopadeshaat maanushopaadhi giyate.

    (The purpose of the mediated God is preaching the spiritual knowledge to the human beings. Hence, the medium is human being and this is said in Gita).

    The main purpose of the entry of God into a medium is to preach the spiritual knowledge to human beings and hence the medium must be a living being and especially must be a human being. This is clearly said in Gita that God enters the human being (Maanusheem tanumaashritam).

    God is beyond the worldly logic

    Sarvakrut sarvayonitvaat gunashaasi na lokatarkyam.

    (God being the source of all items and their properties of the creation, God can do every thing without being that. Items have specific properties by His order only. God is beyond the worldly logic).

    The creation contains various items. Each item is having certain prescribed qualities. All the items and their qualities are generated from God only. By the will of God only, a quality exists in a particular item. No item has any inherent quality by itself. It is by the order of God only that an item has a particular quality. If God wishes the qualities may change. By the will of God fire may become cold and water may become hot. In the world you are recognizing the item by its quality thinking as if that quality is inherent of that item only.

    The worldly logic is not standard because it is based on the will of God only. This worldly logic cannot be applied to the case of God, who is omnipotent to change the quality of any item. God being the source of all the qualities, God can posses any quality and due to that God need not be that item possessing the quality as seen in this world. Without being awareness, God can wish. Without being fire, God can burn anything. Hence, you should not apply the logic of identifying items by their qualities to God as in the case of this world. A quality indicates the potential work of the item. Burning is the quality and also is the potential work of the item. Therefore, God can have any quality and is potent to do any work.

    The reason for God being unimaginable

    Atibodhaakaashaatitamanuhyam tatkaaranam.

    (God is unimaginable because God, the generator of space, is beyond the space. The intelligence can never go beyond the space).

    Veda says that God is the cause of space (Atmaana Aakaashah….). Cause can be seen in its original form, only when its effect is destroyed. The lump of mud can be visualized only when the pot is destroyed. Hence, to understand the original God, the space must be destroyed. When the space is destroyed and does not exist, the situation is unimaginable, in spite of your intensive imagination even for hundred years. Since, your intelligence cannot cross the space, God, who is beyond space can never be imagined by human intelligence. This is the reason for God being unimaginable.