Black Spirituality Religion : Ifa Speaks Against Whites in ATRs

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  1. Knowledge Seed

    Knowledge Seed Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    What do you think?
     
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    on the one hand i don't want to accept whites in ATR. on the other hand we should find a way to bring whites in to civilization.
    i say this not because i love whites but because there are a lot of them.
     
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    They have a place in the ATRs. It's called Tchamba. It is a tradition where the descendants of slave owners serve the spirits of those their ancestors enslaved.
     
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    First Aboru Aboye Abosise Ifa! Ago! Ase ase ase-o. Ayibobo!!! Bilolo!!! I found a few points spoken by Ifa as interesting. Odu Ose Owonrin. I will say that Ifa never speaks a lie per my experience. The message that comes from the oracle can be tested countless of times and always proven true. I found it interesting that non African people must not be initiated into the traditions (isese) of Vodoun, Akan (Akom) and Kon-go particularly. I also found interesting the drive of whites to want to latch on to the traditions due to the void within their own. I found it interesting that the faces of the divinities would be become faceless and then become made in the image of whites. I found it interesting that once a thief, always a thief and that whites will takeover the traditions due to unscrupulous individuals.

    Iba e egun gbobo!
     
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    Evidently the spirits we have blood ties to don't accept them. Even though there are numerous of white folks who claim to be initiates and adepts such babalawos, Apetebis, Houngans, Manbos, Tatas, Yayas and the like and increasingly more and more whites are running to our traditions and establishing all white houses. Even the Kemetic Orthodoxy woman now claims to be a Manbo Asogwe in Sevis Ginen. They are trying to establish themselves as the experts in our blood traditions and trying to tell us about it. Sadly some Black folks are joining these houses out of ignorance and convenience.

    The ATRs are becoming white and the oyinbo is advancing the dialogue more than we are. The traditions our ancestors are awakening us to is being coopted by non Afrikans as we fail to see the value in them.
     
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    Interestingly enough, this isn't the first time I've seen messages from African deities being unapologetically opposed to non-African people. Has anyone else had this experience?
     
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    The ATRs are becoming white and the oyinbo is advancing the dialogue more than we are. The traditions our ancestors are awakening us to is being coopted by non Afrikans as we fail to see the value in them.

    If we teach them and let them teach us in return. You get a half harted lesson.
     
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    Where are the priest/practitioners in the way of traveling throughout black america and establishing
    sanctuaries to teach them to black people?
     
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    Could it be that it is still ingrained in us as a people a spiritual-head as white?
     
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    Yep, it possibly could be. Everyone has different motivations for what we do.
     
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