Law Forum : If You Were A True Citizen Would You Need A Voters Rights Act Renewal Program?

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  1. Seksen

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    While Europeans, Asians, and any "Others" can come to this country and become citizens with all "Rights And Privileges" of a citizen as directed by the Constitution Of The United States Of America, Native born African Americans need "Special Legislation" in order to be able to vote. We are what is called "14th Ammendment Citizens". In other words we are outside of the general category of all other human beings on planet earth. This is another example of our misleaders letting others decide our humanity for us. Therefore adding restrictions and clauses, and making exceptions to how we are to be treated and respected or disrespected in a manner uncommon to all other people on the planet. Listen to the latest round of debate and discussion concerning our humanity and rights as people. This is a dam# insult and a disgraceful act by those people who represent any human institution. No, we are not full citizens, we are on "Probation". Can someone tell me what a probationary citizen is ? Then I need to know how long is the probation suppose to last? Maybe one day the "good" white folk will let us become fully pledged citizens like all other people,even the foreigners.......when you find swamp land in Arizona,and a glacier in New Mexico ,please let me know. The only thing that Congress had to do was make a declaration that " Of this day and furthermore,all people born on these shores legally, will have all rights and privileges shared equally among all other citizens." With this no further legislation would have ever been needed in the future. They tricked us again with deception and stealth. Peace
     
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    All people are presumed 14th Amendment citizens. Caucasians included.
    I say presumed because it is an assumption unless refuted.

    Most Caucasians have abandoned the political communities established by their ancestors.

    Historically, most Caucasians couldn't vote either. The privilege of voting was qualified (limited) by how many acres of property an individual owned.
    Historically, the Senate was not elected by the general electorate as it is done today (17th Amendment).
    It was the State legislatures that elected senators for the Senate.

    The concept of universal suffrage is relatively recent in human history.

    But, those political communities were not established for the benefit of them as they believe it is.
    Those political communities, both the several States and the United States, were established for handling war debt.
    Those people who consider themselves members of those communities, titled citizen, are on the hook for paying this war debt in exchange for privileges proffered by those public corporations. These are you taxes.

    The 14th Amendment's section 4 on "the validity of the public debt .... shall not be questioned" lends credence towards my statements above.
     
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    Perhaps voting is not a civil right, but a civil privilege?

    Perhaps civil rights are civil privileges?
     
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    Greetings Seksen,

    Your highlighted statement is a little misleading. It implies that the Voting Rights Act alone guarantees suffrage to minorities--when it's purpose was/is to enforce the 15th Amendment, namely states which have shown definace of the federal laws. Although, I acknowledge there is an ongoing debate as to whether the Act is relevant and should be permanent or remain renewable every 25 years, however, the fact is that our voting privileges are permanent as all other peoples.
     
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