Black Spirituality Religion : If Jesus was alive, who would Jesus vote for in the next presidential election?

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  1. Prizefighter16

    Prizefighter16 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Dear Destee Family,
    are you confused about who to vote for, or are instead going to vote for the lesser of two evils? Well if you're trying to follow the phrase "What would Jesus Do?" as much as possible, here is another scenario, if Jesus was alive, who do you think Jesus would vote for? Those with biblical knowledge, if it is not any trouble, bring up as much scriptures that could contribute to a genuine answer to this question. Think of how Jesus dealt with the political aspect of life back in the day. Attribute that to now, and speak your peace. This question is only meant to cause our minds to wind a little, because really as christians, some do end up voting for the lesser of two evils. Please, if you can, answer the question. if you think he'd vote for Bush, say it, and why. For kerry, say it and the reason. If it's for nobody, say why to. i just want you're opinion. :thanks:


    :jumping: :jumping: :shades: yall know i was jumpin to talk about this, i love this website, peace and love to all, and God bless.

    Rashawna Wilson
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    Hello Sister Prizefighter16 ! :)

    You ask, If Jesus was alive, who would Jesus vote for in the next presidential election?

    Several thoughts initially came to mind when i read your post, and none stood out more than your obvious joy and happiness in being here and posting this to us! Bless your sweet heart, thanks for sharing. Okay, i'm gonna tell you the other thoughts that initially came to my mind after reading your post.

    1. Many Christians believe that Jesus is alive, not "if" he was alive. Many believe that Jesus lives in them, therefore whoever they vote for, is who Jesus will be voting for. Since there will probably be many Christians voting in the election, and Jesus is living in all of them, Jesus will probably be voting many times for both Kerry and Bush.

    2. Now if Jesus were just one individual person, with the ability to cast one single vote, i'd imagine that he wouldn't even bother. Why would Jesus bother with a little raggedy election in the United States of America, when his Father is the Creator of the whole entire world, responsible for it all, and it all belongs to Him! Nawww, i can't imagine Jesus really being concerned about this raggedy, fake, lying, conniving, backbiting, cheating, good for nothing, election.

    3. Last but not least, i am not familiar with the way Jesus dealt with political issues back in the day. Do you mind sharing with me (us) how Jesus viewed politics? Which of the parties was his view most like, Democrats, Republicans, or Independents?

    Thought provoking scenario you've presented Sister.

    Again, thanks for sharing.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    this being the case, i've often wondered why Christians don't ACT like Jesus.
    they accept him as their savior, why not as their role model?
    why don't they imitate him?

    if they did, there would be no "Christian Right"?
    Jesus didn't own slaves, why did Christians?
    Jesus didn't kill anyone, why does our "born again" president?

    there is a long list of discrepancies between the life that Jesus lead and the life that "Christians" lead, why? :court:
     
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    Keita Kenyatta going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
     
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    Aqil Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Your statement is a misnomer and very misleading, for here Jesus was giving strict instructions to his twelve disciples, not the world...as your statement implies. Matthew 10:34-39 reads as follows:

    "Do not think that I came to bring peace to the Earth! I came to bring trouble, not peace. I came to turn sons against their fathers, daughters against their mothers, and daughters-in-law against their mothers-in-law. Your worst enemies will be in your own family. If you love your father or mother, or even your sons and daughters more than me, you are not fit to be my disciples. And unless you are willing to take up your cross and come with me, you are not fit to be my disciples. If you try to save your life, you will lose it. But if you give it up for me, you will surely find it."
     
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    Prizefighter16 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    i wish i had time to quote from the bible right now...but i do no that Jesus did not take part in his government. He did not see it as an issue, because his purpose was more important. this is why Jesus would not fully be like any political standpoint. You can see some points, such as pro-life, but Jesus would not be a republican, because they are more based in capitalism. Jesus couldn't be a democrat, because they're pro choice, even though some of the democrats policies, fall in line with Jesus' socialistic views. this is why i initially brought up the question. because when we as christians see this, where does that leave us? if we're following Jesus, is that the mentality we have to take? our purpose before the government initially? think about that.oh yeah, thanks for correctin me on whether Jesus is alive. spiritually he is, i just meant if he was flesh and bone. ill update this with the scriptures as soon as possible!
     
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    some people call themselves christians, because they use the word freely. this is my opinion now. believing that Jesus is Christ doesn't make you a christian. it's taking that step to follow him that does. going to church and going to the bible study does not make you a christian. it's the want to form a close relationship with God, at least i believe so. that goes to say that Bush, well he has yet to prove that he is at all christian like. now, yes, why would christians own slaves? i can't answer that, but we know that Jesus didn't want that. Just like Jesus probably did not intend for such separation in one religion. But i think we get so caught up in our opinions for wat God intends, we lose focus that we all are part of a universal church. Why are there so many religious wars? Jesus specifically spoke about peace and love. So there are many things that these "christians" have done in the past that are bad. But being Christian is not about an image. it's about you and God. and then the purpose God has for you. If you build on the relationship, you can build on the church and so on. thats my opinion by the way, and feel free to disagree :wave:
     
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    um, you're misinterpreting wat the bible is stating
    some thing s cant be taken literally
    the good question you had was about why he was a world savior if he only came for the israelites. those are things you should bring up. hopefully someone here can give you a substantial answer.
    there is not proof that Jesus wanted to cause harm to anyone, therefore he wouldn't assassinate anybody.
    where is the proof that he is an essene?
     
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    to add on that, so there's no confusion. i believed when jesus said he came to bring trouble, he was referring to bringing trouble for those such as the pharisees and the sadducees. he wasn't here to put out peace, he was right! he was here to do more, to spread the good news, the right information out to everyone. so for those in power, he did cause trouble. that's wat i think. feel free to disagree.
     
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    Would Jesus vote

    I really liked Destee's response in that as Christians WE are sort of like Jesus voting. (And the kingdom of God is within us.) I too am totally confused about who to vote for as many others are and I hate to think that I am voting for the lesser of two evils. The more I hear from the media (trying to learn so I can decide) the more confused I get. I do know it is our right, priviledge and duty to vote. I think in the end we are going to have to take a deep breath at the time of casting the vote, relying on divine help as to which lever to pull and leave it at that. There's probably no right or wrong to this as no one is perfect and we are going to like and dislike things the president will do whether it be Kerry or Bush. Brothers and sisters, no matter how indecisive it is this election year, please do go vote.
     
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