I love Vegetarians!

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  1. Ralfa'il

    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I love cows, sheep, goats, chicken, and many other animals that only eat vegetation.

    I love them because they taste good....and are good for me. :wink:
     
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    Salaam aqi. Chickens don't eat vegetation...in fact, chickens are nastier than pigs, because they eat their own excrement! Here is an interesting article:

    Resistant Bacteria Common in Grocery-Store Chicken

    Most raw chicken on grocery store shelves is contaminated with at least some fecal bacteria. And most of these bacteria - many of which can make people sick - showed resistance to antibiotics commonly used to treat human illness.

    The researchers wanted to gauge the effectiveness of HACCP (Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Point), a system intended to reduce bacterial contamination that the U.S. Department of Agriculture mandated in chicken-processing plants beginning in 1998. While the system does seem to be working, retail grocery stores that package chicken are not regulated by HACCP, and appear to be a place where contamination often occurs.

    Researchers bought chicken parts including livers, thighs and wings from seven grocery stores in two rural Alabama counties. They put the chicken parts into bacterial culture medium to see what would grow. Of the 253 samples they tested, 233 contained bacteria of a type capable of making people sick. Three quarters of the bacteria were fecal, which are linked to unsanitary conditions. The researchers also found bacteria indicating food spoilage in 5% of the samples.

    And 62 of the 67 samples they checked, or 93%, were resistant to at least one antibiotic, while 87% were resistant to two or more antibiotics. Resistance to a family of antibiotics called cephalosporins, which are often given to people who are allergic to penicillin, was common.

    Even when resistant bacteria are not capable of causing human disease, they can pass resistance along to other bugs that can make people sick. The findings are likely generalizable to the entire U.S., the researchers state, because chicken feeding, raising, processing and packaging is so uniform across the country.

    The contamination most likely occurs after retail grocery stores buy whole chickens in bulk and then re-package them - e.g., removing hundreds of chicken wings or thighs, combining them in a vat and bagging them by the dozen for sale. At grocery stores HACCP is out the window.

    The responsibility for ensuring that chicken is safe still lies with the consumer, because there is no way to require producers to make a sterile product. The best approach, he added, is to cook chicken until it falls off the bone to kill any bacteria.
     
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    Yep, i posted an article on this too. :puke2:
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Yall sound like Fred Sandford trying to trick that little boy into not eating chicken by claiming he'd get a bone stuck in his throat and grow a chicken neck.


    :tennis:

    I've been eating Yard-Bird for over 30 years and it's never made me or anyone I know sick.

    The only time I ever got sick was when somebody was frying up a batch and I couldn't get a piece.
     
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    That has nothing to do with the fact that you don't even know that a Chicken is NOT a vegetarian, contrary to your "educated" statement.

    *shakes head*
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Ofcourse chickens can be vegetarians!

    Especially if you raise them that way.

    Most kosher and halal chickens were raised on corn and other grains, not worms...so they are vegetarians.

    And they are generally kept on screens that allow thier feces to drop through so they can't eat it.
     
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    This is a conditioned diet, brought on by domestication of farmers.

    There is no bird alive that is strictly an herbivore by nature; their systems require numerous amounts of protein in order to fly (which is why chickens cannot fly for long distances).

    It's not like cows and sheep, who are vegetarian by nature, despite domestication.
     
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    Ralfa'il Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Sam


    So is a human becoming a vegetarian a "conditioned" diet.


    Chickens can't fly for long distances because they have been grafted to have big bodies and small wings for easier domestication.

    You call yourself God and don't even know the history of the chicken you created????


    Like I said, heck yessssss.....the chickens that I eat certainly are vegetarian.
     
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    No. Actually, it's just the opposite; us eating meat is a conditioned diet.



    Show and prove this graftation taht you speak of. When did it take place? Why have no other animals undergone this being "grafted", due to domestication?

    Why do you continue to add this ignorant stupidity to every discussion that it has nothing to do with?

    Can't you focus on the relevance of a discussion without talking stupid out of your mouth?


    Show and prove this........Do you grow your own chickens? Or do you get them out of a store?

    If it's the latter, then the chicken that you eat (along with every other meat), has been subjected to all sorts of things resembling a diet.
     
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