Black People : I hope Destee Doesn't Sell-Out...

Discussion in 'Black People Open Forum' started by happy69, Feb 13, 2004.

  1. happy69

    happy69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I heard it on the news, AOL has bought BlackVoices.Com. To be honest I think that BV was already overrun with racists... but now that AOL has it, it will get worse.

    Soon, I think, The Hutchinson Resport will fade out too. Lately, it has been under attack by the KKK.... and like many places who allow such to happen, soon they lose their base audience.

    Except for some sites that Blacks put up and moderate...soon most Black Sites will be off the lines; and I don't want to say good - because it is to me really sad that Blacks cannot seem to do anything; not even anything as simple as making sure that people who post on their sites come in with respect... they can say and feel what they want, but have respect; and leave their racist drivel (that gets tiring); at home, where they can wallow in it.

    A friend of mine actually welcomes the news when Black sites are taken over by corporations; then he says We see what happens....

    Is this just another notch in the Black Belt? Is this just Us doing what We have become so proficient in: WE CREATE....WE NURTURE....WE GIVE IT AWAY?

    add to that; THEN WE ***** BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
     
  2. panafrica

    panafrica Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    To be truthful Happy69, Black Voices was never black owned to begin with. The site was owned by Tribune Media. This is why BV was never moderated, and it is why racist trolls were always allowed to roam free. It is also why the inter-racial dating recruiters were allowed to spread their self-destructive messages unabaited. The same goes for Black Planet, another white owned "Black Site". So I wouldn't morn the sale of BV to AOL. The site is simply being sold from one plantation to another. The disgusting topics, and disrespectful treatment on the above mentioned sites are the primary reason I came to Destee.

    I wouldn't worry about Destee selling out, she is a strong sister, with dedication, and integrity. Brother Jacuma's website is also a home to feel welcome at. No I wouldn't worry about black owned sites. The problem is too many so called black companies perpetrate: BET, Essence Magazine, Def Jam, The Source Magazine, Phat Farm, all of these companies are white owned. Not surprisingly the messages in all of them are often superficial, unprogressive, and in many cases down right divisive. :deal: The bottom line is be wary of black media that is white owned! It is the ultimate conflict of interest.
     
  3. Destee

    Destee destee.com STAFF

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    Sister Happy69 ... i too would like to agree with Brother Pan. BV was never a "black owned" site, so we've not lost anything, as such.

    Being in this business as long as i have, i've seen lots of truly "black owned" sites simply disappear from the Internet landscape. I'd imagine that very few of them "sold out" but instead, most died due to lack of financial support from the folk they catered to. This is my concern as well. These sites cost a significant amount of resources (time, money, expertise, etc.), especially once they become relatively large, as ours is. In addition, they (we) are often vying for the same people / support / patronage, that the "black sites that are white owned" are ... and it's really no competition when up against what seems to be unlimited resources.

    I really don't consider this community in competition with those other places, because we have what money can't buy, Spirit. The Spirit in this place is so awesome! Many have shared how when they join us, they feel an immediate blanket of love and warmth. You cannot buy this, nor create it. It's a gift from God Himself and i'm honored that it is found here.

    The fact remains, money is needed to keep a site alive. I'm often left in awe, as i consider all the many sites that have died (or are only a shell of their former selves), great Black sites ... they're gone and we're still here. It really is by the Grace of God. I'm a single Mother of three, and we've sacrificed much, to keep this community here. Thanking God right now for my wonderful babies.

    This entire effort, from day one, has been guided by all those who came before me. Those that never had an opportunity to take full advantage of new technologies, because they were only allowed in, after all the good was sucked out of a thing. This is for them and because of them, their sacrifices that allowed me to be here today (and yesterday) realizing a dream come true ... a loving, peaceful, and rich community, where we can be ourselves, say what we want, share our thoughts, help each other, meet others like us, build, teach, and embrace. Doing the very thing they claim we can't do. Respectful of all Members and their opinions, room for all of us, where none are considered "the least of us." No matter how things end up, i have already been given the desire of my heart.

    I'm comforted and encouraged by you, Sister Happy69, and all the other Members of this community that have gone "above and beyond," giving your financial support to help this site remain a part of the Internet landscape. But unfortunately, those who have helped, is a very small percentage of those who have Membership here.

    No Sister, we don't have to worry about Destee selling out. My whole heart, soul, mind, body and strength is in this effort. For as long as i'm able, for as long as God says the same, this will be ours, as it is now and as it has been from day one. When i'm no longer able, or God says otherwise, it just won't be here anymore.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
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    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    This is so crucial and I hope members of our community are paying attention to what it takes to keep opportunities like this available for us. Destee, you and this community have my support and this is the LEAST that I can do!

    Queenie :heart:
     
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    yes i hope many take the time to read and know our goals
    as a community Destee is strong and have been in the storm
    to get here today and with the Grace & love of GOD this site
    will continue on and surely with many great members of support
    i will back Destee.com up mentally , physically & financially as
    in part of what i can to keep our home and doors open
    this hit home and a good view of why we should support our own
    we are of many but full support speaks out louder, I agree with all above .
    Peace to a community of warmth
     
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    deepy going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    What amazes me is that i don't even know half the sites you are all talking about...Literally it was "the spirit" that moved me and brought me to this place...It still is the only site i have been at (though i think i may take a look at some of these places you speak of) and really don't have a lot of time to be here...
    And I will continue to support it...I think, not because it is all about love, but sometimes it has that wonderful explosion that you find in a family...sometimes it is about the care and respect you try to give to one another, and sometimes it is about cliques..and why not..people who have shared more time together...we all have favorite cousins or aunts...we all share with some family members more than others...hopefully we all eventually understand that(let me forget we and say I for the moment)...
    the reason i believe it will continue to be supported and stay african-american owned..a lot of us want and understand the need to support our "own"... Like me i see you have trusted and supported it...
     
  7. happy69

    happy69 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I do hope that Destee thrives... the only way we can survive is to keep that which we have.

    I understand quite well that when We compete with each other for Our voices to be heard, it can be frustrating; sometimes We get down right angry...but for me it doesn't matter... because I think that most of Us all think that We have an answer on how We can and should continue to progress.

    Destee is right... So, maybe We should all think about making nominal contributions to Destee and other sites that are truly Black-owned.

    Another brother told me to check out this site a couple years ago... I can admit that I got more than I thought I would; and I am still here. There are many of Us who are just tired of the bs and drivel; We know the story, We know how "you" don't or can't think.... Is there anything original?

    Someone, Destee? Other Moderators? We are in hard economic times, but can't We say, give $5-$10/ say every couple of months here--so that We or Destee don't have to worry about ever losing this site? If at least 50% of Us who come here does that---We will never have to worry--I hope.

    Maybe I am getting BV mixed up with Black Planet? One of the two is run by an African-American male???

    100% Black-owned sites have to circle each other.... and the sites that lie can easily be filtered out.

    I just think that there are things that We should have for Ourselves. Pseudo White Only sites don't let dissenters in; and if they do, you are relegated to certain areas. I did a check and it seems that most all of the Native American sites have on their banners that if you coming in to disrespect or disrupt you will be kicked out; I found the same thing at many Asian -sites....why don't We?

    What are the real Black-owned and maintained sites?

    p.s. You know how I think. I believe with my whole heart that it takes all of Us--progressive people- When it comes to family, you throw all the baggage Out of the window ( in my immediate family We get angry with each other all the time, there have been times when certain members have not talked for years; but I tell you what, let anything happen, let Us have to come together--We do, and throw all the bs out). So, let Us begin, here, if We do this together, it can be very very easy. Our people are full of Warriors...Destee is such...let's support her....because she is supporting Us(.)
     
  8. Destee

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    Family ... the community needs your financial support. We don't have advertisements, popus, all that stuff. If we are ever to have our own, supported by us, for us, then we must pay for it. I know it's a challenging concept to embrace, as we've been taught not to support our own, but there is no way around it.

    Please consider Premium Membership.

    :heart:

    Destee
     
  9. HODEE

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    BUMP!

    I heard today from brother kente427mojo.. he is doing great.
    Family from the past.

    Destee I was cleaning out my PM box.
    I saw a post from Sister happy69

    I sent her an email. I miss her. :glasses:

    She was writing about issues
    I hope we truly continue to put behind us.
    This Sister has fire.
    She definitely is passionate about life.
    Then I opened some of her postings.
    I recall reading this.

     
  10. 360

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    1. You need to expand your definition of "selling out."
    2. Finances have little to do with why some spaces disappear.
    3. Black-owned means very little. A black-owned liquor store is still a liquor store.
     
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