Black People : I brought you in....I will take you out

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  1. GeorgeM

    GeorgeM Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Would this be too extreme though?

    Detroit area father executes son after teen confesses sex abuse of child
    By The Associated Press
    November 19, 2009, 7:27AM
    Jamar Pinkney.jpgPolice say Jamar Pinkney Sr. shot his son as naked boy knelt pleading for his life. (AP)

    HIGHLAND PARK, Mich. -- A 37-year-old father irate over hearing his 15-year-old son had sexual contact with a 3-year-old girl made the teen strip at gunpoint, marched him to a vacant lot and shot him to death despite pleas from the boy and his mother, a relative said.

    Michigan authorities filed a first-degree murder charge Wednesday against Jamar Pinkney Sr. in the shooting death Monday of Jamar Pinkney Jr. in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park.

    Defense attorney Corbett O'Meara said prosecutors should consider evidence of the father's state of mind over the sex abuse report.

    "If something were to happen that would cause a reasonable person to lose control of himself, that is something the prosecution would have to take into account," O'Meara said outside Highland Park District Court.

    Tensions were high in the courtroom Wednesday as the handcuffed suspect was led into the room for the arraignment, which lasted less than a minute.

    "No, No, No," one female relative cried before a police officer escorted her out.

    Judge Brigette Officer entered a not guilty plea for Pinkney, who's also charged with assault, and ordered him jailed without bond until a preliminary examination Dec. 1.

    "This is something that's hard to deal with for all the parties concerned, including the police," police Chief Ted Caldwell said afterward. "Highland Park is a small city. These are people who have been members of the community for years."

    Caldwell said the sexual misconduct allegation that led to the confrontation wasn't part of the police investigation.

    The shooting happened Monday night in a vacant lot in the once-prosperous city of 16,000.Visitors built an impromptu memorial at the shooting site. Two votive candles sat amid 10 stuffed animals, including two white teddy bears with red hearts embroidered with, "I love you."

    The boy's mother, Lazette Cherry, told the Detroit Free Press that her son told her he had improper sexual contact with the girl.

    "I called and told his father. This isn't something you sweep under the rug," she said.

    Cherry said the elder Pinkney arrived at the home with a gun, ordered his son to strip and marched him outside despite her protests.

    "He got on his knees and begged, 'No, Daddy, No,' and he pulled the trigger," Cherry said.

    Cherry did not immediately respond to a message Wednesday from The Associated Press seeking comment.
     
  2. Ankhur

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    What had the father not done in this boys early years that, the son would even concider such an act?
     
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    wow!.....How many of us have heard those words from our own parents?!

    Now, whether we actually thought they would do it, we also didn't want to TEST it! (lol)

    But, yes, I think THIS was too extreme!

    He didn't have to KILL the boy...He could have gotten him some counseling and even turning the boy in for his sexual crime against the little girl or talked to the boy, his mother, the parents of the little girl...and found out just WHAT he did to her and how to best deal with it for the little girl and his son.
     
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    peace

    Pyschologically speaking:

    Or on the other hand, maybe the father saw himself in the boy and sub-conciously sought to kill himself for acts he may have committed in his early years which he felt he passed on to his child...

    "the fruit don't fall too far from the tree"

    He may have rather himself go to prison for his acts than to see his child go to prison for a crime he sure would have regreted once those steel gates closed behind him. At 15 he would have been charged as an adult and placed into GP.....not a good look for a child molester!!!

    Maybe the father had the same happen to a family member when he was young, or a close friend.

    How many of us have said:

    "i would kill anyone i knew had committed a sex crime, especially against an innocent child. Forget calling the police, the streets should handle that!"

    The father may have thought that by his son having sexual contact with the child, he in effect murdered a part, if not all of that child mentally so justice must be served on his own son at his hands. How do we know if this was the boy's first time, or who the 3 year old girl was that could have contributed to the fathers actions?

    "justice" - is the reward or punishment according to one's ways and or actions...

    In most countries a crime like this is punishable by death. Most are looking at this like a DAD Murdered his son, NO a father exacted justice and prevented his son from being able to harm anyone else....

    would i have done the same? I can't speak on it because thankfully, i've never been in this situation...

    Extreme? Depends on how you look at it and no matter how you see it you will always be on the outside looking in, so a majority of the time you will end up wrong in your conclusion......
     
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    Good points....it definitely seems like something went off in his head. It will be interesting to hear him tell his story when he's able to. Either way, it definitely can't be said he turned his head on the problem.



     
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    sounds accurate.. I could see that kind of father having that kind of son.
    That's what unresolved issues can turn into. The sins (unresolved issues)
    \of the father do indeed fall on the son. A father with an emotional deficiency
    affects his own sons development. That's the reason, the best thing you can
    do for your children is to work on yourself.
     
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    Some readings say that the boy only had "inappropriate contact" but not what the "contact" was.

    Some say he molested the 3 yr old.

    Some say the 3 y/o was his step-sister or half-sister.

    Whatever the particulars are, no one can ask the son if he was ever molested because he's dead.
     
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    Regardless of what it was, it was too much.

    Could be a simple case of shame - like how some folks kill their daughters for having slept with a man unmarried and the like.

    Or a depper case, as info-moetry boldly points out.

    Poor boy, foolish father.

    One,

    - Ikoro
     
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    It was the boys half sister according to this...








    From watching this video, I think it is a case of a father not knowing how to be a father. Judgin from this video, the girlfriend called him to come and handle the situation and I think he just did what he thought was best to do. He just didn't know how to father a situation where one of his children have sexually touched one of his other children. I can imagine the thoughts of what to do going through his head. Kind of reminds me of young mothers who get embaressed at their child acting out in the grocery store, I think they are more irritated at the fact of what other people think they should do, so they pop and hit or slap their children, thinking that is what the other people in the store want. I think he acted out what he percieved that the mother of the three year old wanted him to do. I dunno.

    Astrologically speaking, this kind of situation can happen to anyone, particularly those who are not conscious of how the cosmos affect us all. I know of this family where the mother and father were real church going people, they had 5 boys and one girl. The girl was spoiled and she went every where with mommy and daddy. The boys spent a lot of time home with each other when they were not with their parents or in church. Any way, it later came out that the third male sibling was molested by his oldest brother. To this day, the parents still have no idea and the father is deceased. The one who was being molested by his brother is gay and the one who molested him, he went on to marry and have children. My point for this story is, the family were church goers, real heavy in the church so they figured they were raising their children right and never gave any thought to the fact that testosterone sheltered boys left unsupervised are bound to have those kinds of incidents occur... Especially if one of the siblings was born with a more than usual curious, bold and rebelious mind

    Astrologer4U
     
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    It was beyond extreme, yet cold REDRUM
     
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