Brother AACOOLDRE : How the God Shu became Joshua in the OT?

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    By Andre Austin, author of Lukewarm: The temperature of Justice

    All throughout Ancient Egypt the God Shu is depicted as holding the sun and moon upon his shoulders.

    In some of the mythology of their creation stories we learn that the eye of Ra was unable or unwilling to make itself appear from under the water until after Shu and his twin Tefnut had come into being. Shu represents daylight, atmosphere which supports the heaven and keeps them above the earth, while Tefnut, the female counterpart of Shu represents rain, dew, moisture and moral order known as Maat. If the eye of Ra would have come out premature in the chaos his pupils would have been crooked and unstable before order was set in by Tefnut-Maat.

    So its no coincidence that in a battle against the Amorites Joshua holds up the sun and moon in the book of Joshua chapter ten was modeled after the God Shu.

    According to the Nelson’s Illustrated Dictionary of the Bible p.597:

    “Joshua’s name, an Old Testament form of Jesus, means “salvation”…

    The warrior Joshua is introduced as the capable leader selected by God to lead the people to conquer Canaan. Then the book launches immediately into narratives about the military victories of the Hebrews”. In the ancient Egypt poem titled The Great Hymn to Khnum it states the eye twins i.e Shu and Tefnut “save him from the water by his twins” (Ancient Egyptian Lit Volume 3 p.114-115). So the attributes of Shu & Joshua are the same to save to liberate from the waters, ignorance, or illusions.

    Lets look at some of the ancient Egyptian Literature:

    A Morning Hymn to Khnum

    Awakenings of Khnum; say

    Wake well in peace, wake well in peace

    Khnum-Amen, the ancient,

    Issued from Nun (Nile water)…

    Wake, lord of gods and men,

    Lord of the war cry, (Joshua 6:10 has a “war cry” also just like Shu)

    In peace, awake peaceably…

    Wake, ram great of Majesty

    Tall-plumed, sharp-horned… (Joshua use of the ram horns in the Bible for a war cry)

    Wake, veiled-faced one,

    Who shuts his eyes to his foes, (Joshua acts like a spy, using his eyes Numbers 13:16 & latter Joshua 6:22 sends out his own spies, in effect shutting his own eyes to use other eyes)

    As he bears arms,

    In peace, awake peaceably…

    Wake, great crocodile who says

    Each of you shay slay his fellow *

    In peace awake, peaceably

    Wake, Shu, strong-armed

    His father’s champion,

    Slayer of rebels,

    In peace, awake peaceably

    Wake, fighting ram who chases his foes, ( Joshua’s 6:4 use of Ram’s horns)

    Herdsman of his followers

    In peace, awake peaceably

    Wake, multiform one,

    Who changes shape at will

    In peace, awake peaceably

    Wake, Khnum who fashions + as he wishes, ( Joshua 5:7-9 refashion/rolled/spin away reproach of Egypt)

    Who sets every man in his place

    “Fellow” is An allusion to the sun-god’s battle against his enemies in which he is supported by Shu and other gods. Here Khnum, identified with Shu, fights on behalf of the sun-god. His “fellow” must mean his opponent in battle” (Ancient Egyptian Lit Volume 3 p.110-111 by Miriam Lichtheim

    + Khnum, a ram-headed deity achieved status of a creator-god specifically one who fashioned mankind by rolling or spinning men on a potter’s wheel see Genesis 2:7 & Isaiah 64:8. If they used a knife to take away excess clay/mud the analogy to Joshua’s use of a flint knife to remove excess flesh on the penis is to be compared.

    Shu was just like Joshua a warrior in battle and capable of holding up the eye of the sun.

    The verdict is out Joshua is based on Shu. We have been robbed and repackaged a story a story for sale that originally was ours. A stolen legacy.


    I can only speculate with a high level of conjecture that there may be a link with Joshua’s name meaning “Salvation” with “Salve”=salvage/save a medical ointment used to soothe the eyes (Rev 3:18) along with his Lukewarm spit (Tefnut) in Rev 3:16. We know his spit has the power of Ephphatha (Be opened) in Mark 7:33-34. We also know that Matthew 25:31-46 & Rev 3:14-22 is using the same Egyptian source to divide us the Sheep from the Goats, from those looking (Lukewarm) out for others and those who can’t been seen doing any righteous deeds.

    Jesus use of spit & mud to cure a man blind in John 9:1-6 could be linked with Shu & Tefnut with the help of Khnum saving a man’s eyes like they did with Ra’s eyes.