Black People : How Many Slaves Came to the USA?

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  1. Kemetstry

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    How Many Slaves Came to America? Fact vs. Fiction
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    (The Root) -- Amazing Fact About the Negro No. 1: How many Africans were taken to the United States during the entire history of the slave trade?
    Perhaps you, like me, were raised essentially to think of the slave experience primarily in terms of our black ancestors here in the United States. In other words, slavery was primarily about us, right, from Crispus Attucks and Phillis Wheatley, Benjamin Banneker and Richard Allen, all the way to Harriet Tubman, Sojourner Truth and Frederick Douglass. Think of this as an instance of what we might think of as African-American exceptionalism. (In other words, if it's in "the black Experience," it's got to be about black Americans.) Well, think again.
    The most comprehensive analysis of shipping records over the course of the slave trade is the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, edited by professors David Eltis and David Richardson. (While the editors are careful to say that all of their figures are estimates, I believe that they are the best estimates that we have, the proverbial "gold standard" in the field of the study of the slave trade.) Between 1525 and 1866, in the entire history of the slave trade to the New World, according to the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade Database, 12.5 million Africans were shipped to the New World. 10.7 million survived the dreaded Middle Passage, disembarking in North America, the Caribbean and South America.
    And how many of these 10.7 million Africans were shipped directly to North America? Only about 388,000. That's right: a tiny percentage.



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    I do not know the accuracy of that number, but the currents used to transport Africans largely goes from West Africa to the Caribbean and South America. The ports there were used to 'break African people' to be then transported to North America. In other words, it's like a 'transfer' point in an airplane or bus trip. Nevertheless, you could say that a lot of Black Americans had Caribbean ancestry--though obviously that would be looking at the transfer and not the full trip; just like the 388,000 may represent direct passages, which mind you, were roughly twice as long at a time when people died by the day.
     
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    I guess we will have to research where they got their numbers from







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    "Slaves" were not brought here. African men, women and children were kidnapped, transported to the Americas, then imprisoned within the institution of Slavery which was codified in law. They were human beings the whole time.. and we still are.

    so.. how many African men, women and children were kidnapped, transported and enslaved in the Americas? A whole bunch more than those documents would indicate. They do not have all of the transport records of kidnapped Africans arriving in the Americas.. there was no Office of Slavery Records keeping tight track of what was going on.
     
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    [quote="skuderjaymes, post: 763037, member: 23709"]"Slaves" were not brought here. African men, women and children were kidnapped, transported to the Americas, then imprisoned within the institution of Slavery which was codified in law. They were human beings the whole time.. and we still are.

    so.. how man African men, women and children were kidnapped, transported and enslaved in the Americas? A whole bunch more than those documents would indicate. They do not have all of the transport records of kidnapped Africans arriving in the Americas.. there was Office of Slavery Records keeping tight track of what was going on.[/quote]



    Most died coming here.






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    Most died coming here.






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    Yep, just think about the many that perished onboard because of the conditions of those ships. Packing our ancestors like cargo, you can bet that tens of thousands and/or even more were tossed overboard.

    We probably will NEVER get an exact head count of how many of our ancestors that died in the waters of the Atlantic and the Caribbean.
     
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    "Slaves" were not brought here. African men, women and children were kidnapped, transported to the Americas, then imprisoned within the institution of Slavery which was codified in law. They were human beings the whole time.. and we still are.

    You are so so true. these were mothers, fathers and children who were snactched from their homes and treated in a most brutal way....These were people with their families living their own lives. They BECAME slaves. Do they know the amount that died on their way to the USA and the Caribbean?
     
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    I am reading a copy of a book The African-American Family in Slavery and Emancipation.. written by Wilma Dunaway.


    This was slavery in the Mountain South.

    When I started to read this I started to get very emotional. Yet people keep telling black folks they should move on and FORGET this. The past is a creature to the future.


    "Appalachian masters INTRUDED into motherhood through the formation of child care strategies that WEAKENED the bonds between family members and placed young children at increased risk of malnutrition, injury and inadequate psychological development.

    On the other hand, enslaved mothers did not have the option of not reporting for work when their children needed attention. Mothers risked punishment of children if they demanded better child care when the master's arrangements endangered their offspring.
    The master's agenda was to socialise children in such a way so as to cement their allegiance to and their obedience to the master and his proxies." Trying to decipher how how many were brought to the USA is irrevelant.. the issue is the degrading conditions which many had to endure and the destruction of the black family. One African is one too many that would have been FORCIBLY removed from Africa.
     
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    The link is what is given in the book. She is assistant professor at Virginia Polytechnic and Institute and State University..
     
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    Found it.. the actual url is
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    http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/vtpubs/mountain_slavery/
    update your link and we can delete all of these other messages..
     
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