Black Relationships : How Important is Black Love

KMeister

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I define it as love for our people as well as our families and history, music, culture, etc.

Extending my love to everyone alive today or who ever lived would make my love rather worthless, don't you think?

And for the folk who can't CONCEIVE of a black person loving black WITHOUT so-called hating white - you're wrong. I can love my man and not hate yours. I do it everyday. :)

I completely agree with you that loving one person doesn't mean one has to hate another. That also cuts both ways. I support "black love" as long as it doesn't mean I have to be exclusive in that love. God has given me many siblings, some look like me and some don't. The love I share freely is often freely returned to me, often abundantly, which in turn allows me to share my love even more with others. (This is reflected at my church during the early part of the service: after the pastor greets us we turn to greet each other as brothers and sisters regardless of race, age, sex, wealth or rank.)

As for your point about "making [your] love rather worthless," I don't believe it would. I can't imagine being able to love in such a way, but neither do I believe loving in such a way would make your love worthless. In fact, you'd be loving as God loves, and no one can do that.

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I completely agree with you that loving one person doesn't mean one has to hate another. That also cuts both ways. I support "black love" as long as it doesn't mean I have to be exclusive in that love.
A "love" that loves everyone is no love at all.

God has given me many siblings, some look like me and some don't. The love I share freely is often freely returned to me, often abundantly, which in turn allows me to share my love even more with others.
What has George Zimmerman done for you lately?

(This is reflected at my church during the early part of the service: after the pastor greets us we turn to greet each other as brothers and sisters regardless of race, age, sex, wealth or rank.)
Same with my church.

As for your point about "making [your] love rather worthless," I don't believe it would. I can't imagine being able to love in such a way, but neither do I believe loving in such a way would make your love worthless. In fact, you'd be loving as God loves, and no one can do that.

KM
The first part of your last sentence is in direct contradiction to the last part. God can love all "and no one can do that?"
 

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Let me put MY feelings on the subject this way: I like individuals. I am kind to individuals. I love my people. The reason is simple (plus my "advice" to all, especially those who claim to love "everyone"):

Kindness is a virtue; be indiscriminate with your virtues. Pass them around freely and the world will be a better place for it.

Love is an emotion; be discriminate with your emotions. Indiscriminate emotions are cheap, a sign of mental illness, and indiscriminate love is worthless.
 

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A "love" that loves everyone is no love at all.
I can't say I agree with that. No, my sister, a love that loves everyone is mirroring the love of God.

What has George Zimmerman done for you lately?
Nothing, but that's the beauty of love. One doesn't have to do anything to receive it. In my faith we are told to love all, including our enemies and people who intend us harm. We're told to pray for them. There's no limit on how or who we can love. I've read about people who have forgiven and ministered to people in prison who have hurt--or even murdered--a member of their family. Remember that Amish community in which the survivors shared the money they received with the widow of the man who had murdered their children. Wow! Now that is love.

The first part of your last sentence is in direct contradiction to the last part. God can love all "and no one can do that?"
Forgive me if I wasn't clear. I meant to express that no one can love the way God does--but we are commissioned to try.

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:thinking: Perhaps you missed this one:

Let me put MY feelings on the subject this way: I like individuals. I am kind to individuals. I love my people. The reason is simple (plus my "advice" to all, especially those who claim to love "everyone"):

Kindness is a virtue; be indiscriminate with your virtues. Pass them around freely and the world will be a better place for it.

Love is an emotion; be discriminate with your emotions. Indiscriminate emotions are cheap, a sign of mental illness, and indiscriminate love is worthless.
 

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Let me put MY feelings on the subject this way: I like individuals. I am kind to individuals. I love my people. The reason is simple (plus my "advice" to all, especially those who claim to love "everyone"):
But your statement raises the issue of who are "my people"? Those who look like me? (Then what about those who don't--and how much do they have to look like me to be considered "my people?") Those who are a part of your family? (Then what about those who join your family by marriage or adoption?) Those who sit next to you at church? (According to God, aren't they all equally your siblings?)

Kindness is a virtue; be indiscriminate with your virtues. Pass them around freely and the world will be a better place for it.
I agree.

Love is an emotion; be discriminate with your emotions. Indiscriminate emotions are cheap, a sign of mental illness, and indiscriminate love is worthless.
I don't completely disagree with this the way it's worded, however, an indiscriminate love for all humankind is hardly worthless. In fact, it's quite valuable because it mirrors the love of God.

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But your statement raises the issue of who are "my people"?
Let's nip this in the bud. MY people=black people.

I don't completely disagree with this the way it's worded, however, an indiscriminate love for all humankind is hardly worthless.
So you love George Zimmerman. And no doubt, you love every slaver that ever lived, every rapist of every one of your black-skinned ancestors who cried out in pain and beseeched God in heaven to spare her, that resulted in the brown African-American you are today.

It's like I said - indiscriminate love is a sign of mental illness. :news:

In fact, it's quite valuable because it mirrors the love of God.

KM
But you're not God.
 

KMeister

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Let's nip this in the bud. MY people=black people.
Actually, the reply raises more questions than it answers. It raises the issue of just how "black" does one have to be to qualify for membership as "my people"? What about those who are half black? One quarter black? What about very dark but not "black" such as some East Indians?

So you love George Zimmerman. And no doubt, you love every slaver that ever lived, every rapist of every one of your black-skinned ancestors who cried out in pain and beseeched God in heaven to spare her, that resulted in the brown African-American you are today.
Truth be told I'm generally focused on the here and now for whom I love. In my faith we are told to love all of humankind. I admit I'm a work in progress but I'm trying.

It's like I said - indiscriminate love is a sign of mental illness.
I don't believe this is true but respect your opinion.

But you're not God.
Truer words have never been written, but we are to strive to love as God does.

KM
 

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Actually, the reply raises more questions than it answers. It raises the issue of just how "black" does one have to be to qualify for membership as "my people"? What about those who are half black? One quarter black? What about very dark but not "black" such as some East Indians?
What is the wrong with you? I said MY people=black people. You know, AFRICAN people? This is an AFRICAN-American forum you know, not a dark, but not so dark, blah blah blah! Scheesh!

Truth be told I'm generally focused on the here and now for whom I love. In my faith we are told to love all of humankind. I admit I'm a work in progress but I'm trying.
God bless you because you have a looong way to go. **sigh**

And that, my friend, is the end of this discussion for me. You get the last word, so have at it. I'm outta here.:bus:
 

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What is the wrong with you? I said MY people=black people. You know, AFRICAN people? This is an AFRICAN-American forum you know, not a dark, but not so dark, blah blah blah! Scheesh!
I apologize. I don't mean to be exasperating. However, black people and African people are not the same are they? Also, I don't fully understand the "not a dark, but not so dark, blah blah blah! Scheesh!" part, but I have a feeling you're not going to explain it to me. Another time perhaps.

God bless you because you have a looong way to go. **sigh**
Thank you--and God bless you as well.

And that, my friend, is the end of this discussion for me. You get the last word, so have at it. I'm outta here.
Go with God--and best wishes for 2014!

KM
 

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