Poetry Discussion : How do you know where the end of your Poem is?

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    my process has to do with rhythm and feel.. it originates in a concept I learned from music..

    what about you?.. how do you know where the end of a piece is?
     
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    The ending of a song begins with the beginning concept, it is how well the middle part is put together which we must consider also. For the middle part ties the beginning and ending in.

    As I travel thru this misty ether that makes up my astral body secreting gases igniting lightning flashes dread-locked up head knotty
    Vertical to the rich black soil as the black viper uncoils the mocking bird sings sweet melodies at 212 degrees I bubble and boil...
     
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    Peace

    As soon as I stop 'making it plain' and feel myself begin to force the next verse.
     
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    James,
    I've been looking at this question sideways for awhile now, not exactly sure how to answer because I'm not exactly sure what you're asking.
    " .. how do you know where the end of a piece is?"

    When the little poet people in my head stop speaking, I'm pretty sure the poem is done. I don't always write my pieces in sequential order. I sometimes write the last line first and then write a poem for it. Not sure if I answered but that's the best I got.

    (smile)
     
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    Kiwanda..
    you answered. but let me ask you:

    I know you do a lot of hard-form poetry.. like Haiku and Cinquan.. ("hard-form" being my word for poetry with strictly defined forms..5-7-5, etc.. ) Does your process.. "the little poet people".. work the same with longer, free-form Pieces too?

    ps: good to see you back
     
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    James,

    I am a minimalist to my core. Those little poet people are economical with their words as am I. My longer pieces are not all that long at all. I don't believe I've ever written a poem longer than 4 stanzas. The freedom blank verse affords doesn't really suit me. I need structure. Having said all that, yes, the process is the same. The little artists in my head do their thing and I write it down. I also channel other poets at times. For instance, while writing "lessons passed down" I could feel Lucille Clifton's hand over mine while I typed. You already know I'm crazy so I'm not afraid to share this with you.

    (smile)

    ps: missed you too.
     
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    when a concept comes to mind as was mentioned earlier I too sort of wrap my ideas around that main theme and often that initial thought becomes the last word/sentence...or sometimes the conclusion of that concept is last a thought that ties it together a resolution or sets a train of thought in the direction I want
     
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    You are far from crazy; you are beautiful.. and your work is beautiful. And it's time for that book. How would you ever have been impacted by Lucille Clifton if she had not put her work out there for you to stumble onto? It's time.
     
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    Peace Feather.. thanks for sharing.. and good to see you back..

    let me ask you:

    Do you commit fully to a single theme for each concept.. or do you try different avenues for the same concept? For example.. do you ever take the initial thought and place it at the begining.. or off to the side.. or firmly in the middle.. while you write around it?
     
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    Its rarely at the beginning, the middle yes sometimes when its an unfinished thought that im still struggling to get out and communicate it. But usually I think I commit to a single theme and stick to that idea. Thank you, its nice to be back ;)

    ...actually its a bit of both it just depends on the idea and how developed it is with me lol
     
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