Black People Politics : How can you build a Black community while living in a white one?

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  1. NNQueen

    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Is it too late for us to emulate our elders? Some of you have expressed that you don't care what your ancestors did, that it has no relevance today. But if our ancestors treated each other better than we treat each other today, and it advanced us as a people and helped us reap the better part of where we are today, why can't we take a look back to study how they successfully did that and copy their strategy and apply it today?

    African Americans, Impact of the Great Depression

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    The Great Depression brought mass suffering to all regions of the country. National income dropped by 50 percent and unemployment rose to an estimated 25 percent of the total labor force. At the same time, twenty million Americans turned to public and private relief agencies for assistance. As the "Last Hired and the First Fired," African Americans entered the Depression long before the stock market crash in 1929, and they stayed there longer than other Americans. By 1933, African Americans found it all but impossible to find jobs of any kind in agriculture or industry.

    As the number of rural blacks seeking jobs in cities escalated, urban black workers experienced increasing difficulties. Black urban unemployment reached well over 50 percent, more than twice the rate of whites. In southern cities, white workers rallied around such slogans as, "No Jobs for N*****s Until Every White Man Has a Job" and "N*****s, back to the cotton fields—city jobs are for white folks."

    Following his inauguration, Roosevelt's attitude toward African Americans changed little. He not only opposed vital civil rights legislation like the anti-lynching bill, designed to make lynching a federal offense, but showed little interest in challenging even the most blatant manifestations of racial injustice in the proliferation of New Deal agencies.

    Despite the rise of interracial alliances and the emergence of anti-racist movements among whites, African Americans developed their own strategies for social change and helped to create their own "new deal."

    Very interesting read...see entire article here.


    We know what to do. But don't and the question is why? We either don't know how to come together or don't want to, or think that it's possible to do today because of integration.

    As we quickly approach an historic presidential election, one that follows 8 years under the leadership of a Black president, what do you think? And let's not share pretty words, that would be a waste of time. Let's keep it real. Are we not as smart or committed as our ancestors?
     
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    chuck Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    What our ancestors did and their forebears also did for their descendants does reveal their own intelligence:

    Nowadays we also do need to be as wise for our own sakes too!
     
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    This speaks much truth to power Arianne ... Isaiah agrees with you also:


    Isaiah Washington tells African Americans to boycott work Monday


    The date of the protest is also the day of the first presidential debate, which is expected to be the most watched in history.

    Washington says the goal is to "maintain the safety of our people, while significantly impacting America's broken judicial system that is oppressing us by removing our labor, our bodies and our money from it...for 24 hours" ...


    http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...rican-americans-boycott-work-monday/91078734/

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    Clyde C Coger Jr going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    Very true:

    "Anyway some significant issues don't always work on a schedule"

    Good deal, enjoy your day, you and little Stinkpot ... Yeah, I'm not sure when this was decided, but I have more on it here that may help you find a timeline:

    https://destee.com/threads/black-li...ath-of-eric-garner.81784/page-104#post-966859

    “Imagine if every single African American in the United States that was really fed up with being angry, sad and disgusted, would pick ONE DAY to simply ‘stay at home’ from every single job, work site, sports arena and government office in the United States of America. I’m very sure that within 72 hours from Wall Street to the NFL…Black Lives Would Matter. September 26, 2016 is THE DAY. #ItsTime #CanWeDoIt?#ACallToAction #StayAtHomeSeptember262016 #RIPTerenceCrutcher#HandsUpDontShoot

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    Grrrrr...I didn't know about this for surely I would have participated in it. Well, they got my labor and body today but won't get my money. :10200:

    This is exactly what Bro. AI D was trying to organize in one of our threads a few weeks ago (can't remember which one, though) and the thread died a quick death. He was even told it would never work. It won't unless you try.

    I think it's a GREAT idea and powerful call to action strategy.

    Another day that would have a significant impact is the so-called "Black Friday":

    Origins: "Black Friday" is the (originally derisive, now mainstream) term for the phenomenon that takes place in the U.S. on the day after Thanksgiving Thursday, when millions of consumers who get the day off from work or school crowd into stores for what is traditionally considered the beginning of the Christmas shopping season. The origins of the term "Black Friday" have become somewhat obscured in the mists of time, however, leading people to invent fanciful explanations for how that phrase became attached to the day after Thanksgiving. The example reproduced above posits the term started with a tradition of slaveowners or slave traders using that day as an opportunity for selling their wares.

    In fact, the entire holiday season would be an excellent way for Black Americans to let the public know that we are fed up and not going to sit down and take it anymore. Keep your MONEY!! Another benefit to doing that is it keeps money in our pockets, unifies us as a people and teaches our children a very important lesson in standing up for a cause that is important to you. We need to stop teaching our children passive-aggressive behavior when it comes to our civil rights and social justice.

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    I started drooling at the thought. Gosh, how powerful! And, although it's not an original idea, still, it makes me tingle just thinking about how successful this could be.

    I didn't know about this . . . I feel like a TRAITOR!!!:cry: :bye:
     
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    This came to me as a rough draft flash from my poetic nature...

    Black With N.V. (yea, this is a flash back of sorts)

    Many of us desire to unite or become involved, but have yet to evolve into a visionary.
    When we instruct and guide others on how to visualize internal thoughts into a process of progress, and how it would look in a tangible reality, then this will create better alternatives and ideas that can be collaborated upon.

    Again, with no vision, there can be no articulation.
    No Vision - No Art-i-culation

    Once we pick up the pen and pad/chalk and board again (the keyboard has somewhat removed us from a creative connection), the ability for others to engage their minds would come a bit easier as well, as the energy can be translated and transferred better.

    There were a few programs that I worked with that allowed for online communities to interact via a white board system. Drawings, sketches, scribbles, etc where documented and responded to in the effort to express ideas not just in words, but in the visual dialect that is more universal to understanding.

    With all that said, what is Black With N.V.?

    Listen to the lyrics...

    Black With No Vision


    But for the honest nature of black community vs. white community, what does this look like in reality?

    1. How many black communities can we name, and name them?
    2. How many white communities can we name, and name them?
    3. Are we referring to segregated populations?
    4. Are we referring to a general classification of people, as communities?

    These are the tangible questions for a tangible response to the initial question of:

    "How can you build a Black community while living in a white one?"

    This is a great question, and is it the right one to ask?
    If this question could be drawn out in visual form, what would it look like?
     
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    The impact of missing one or two work days will never have the same impact as an ONGOING economic BOYCOTT of ALL EUROPEAN HOLIDAYS!!!!!

    Except, the 4th of July, of course ---and that's b/c the root of celebration (*July 4-July 6*) evolved from Ancient KmT

    "...The conceptual framework behind the making of America is African Black Matriarchal and African Black Kemetic. Even the colors of the flag are copied from OUR Ancestors...!

    From the book "The Complete Golden Dawn System of Magic: the author Israel Regardie states quite plainly: "this is all Ancient African/KmTic "-- Source: http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TH9SL69774RL0VMV5/p33..."

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    In answer to your thread, NN Queen, Ey e am not all together sure that the system of integration can so easily be reversed. The collaborative efforts of building, educating, housing and feeding OUR OWN must be done in real time with black people living in close proximity to one another.

     
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    NNQueen going above and beyond PREMIUM MEMBER

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    You reminded me of a Biblical proverb that I learned when I used to attend church, "Where there is no vision, people perish," and I agree.

    The tangible for me stems from a cerebral and emotional connection (philosophical community) to become a social network or organized community where ideas emerge between people in conversation instead of the individual thinker, then it becomes more about how "We" should live as opposed to how "I" should live. Approaching ideas from a philosophical point of view is socially creative--it is intended to destabilize the traditional form of community to create an alternative. Changing our thought processes to think in new ways and challenge the current system that doesn't work for us is what I believe we should do. We define who we are and our future. We don't have to segregate physically (although this way of thinking might lead to that), just mentally. Like any grassroots organization where people of like minds and common goals gather to have conversations and organize, similar to churches but without the religion.

    I need to work more on the vision . . . what would it look like . . . hmmm. Deconstruct the system of division caused by all the social, political and economic categories that were created for all the wrong reasons; power, greed and dominance. I know that's too vague for some and potentially improbable but a vision should be broad in scope, I think. More later . . .
     
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