Black Spirituality Religion : How Are They ALL "ONE"? It's NOT How You Have Been Taught!

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    Eccl 12vs13 Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Let’s read some “FACTS” from the word of God, use just a little reasoning and rightfully divide the word of God, just as His word tells us to do.
     
    1. God the Father will not judge man, that job is reserved for…..Jesus! This is a FACT! Let's prove it with God's word;


    John.5
    [22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


    2. God the Son has no idea when He is coming back; that knowledge is reserved for God the Father ONLY! This is a FACT! Let's prove it with God's word;


    Mark.13
    [32] But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    3. You can speak against the God the Son, but if you speak against the Holy Ghost it will not be forgiven. This is a FACT! Let's prove it with God's word;

    Luke.12
    [10] And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.


    4. The Holy Spirit has no idea when Jesus is coming back, nor will it judge man! This is a FACT! Let's prove it with God's word;

    Mark.13
    [32] But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

    John.5
    [22] For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:


    Now the above are all FACTS that we have just proved with scripture. But man has given us a doctrine that says The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are all ONE!

    Let's examine the doctrine of man and ask the following logical questions;


    If they are ONE as man claims, how can the Son judge WITHOUT the Father and the Holy Ghost?

    If they are ONE as man claims, how can the Father know the time and the hour, but NOT the Holy Spirit or the Son?

    If they are ONE as man claims, how can you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and not the Father or Son?

    If they are ONE as man claims, who was God while Jesus was dead for 3 days and 3 nights?

    If they are ONE as man claims, who raised Jesus from the dead?

    Oh yeah…..I can really see man’s doctrine of “Being One” really coming together and making sense! NOT!!!

    How can any of the above questions be answered with man's doctrine of being (ONE) when we just read FACTS from God's word saying otherwise?

    Are God's words incorrect? Of course not.


    How about this? How about just reading the scriptures for what they are? Did you know there is only ONE place in ALL of God's word that tells us just how the Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are all ONE?

    Please....search God's word as He instructs and receive your doctrine from God's word;

    2 Tim.3
    [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

    I challange those reading to pray for understanding, search God's word and find just how GOD and not man tell us how the (3) are "ONE"!

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    So forum....Let's again look at man's doctrine of the "Trinity" and ask the following questions;


    If they are ONE as man claims, how can the Son judge WITHOUT the Father and the Holy Ghost?

    If they are ONE as man claims, how can the Father know the time and the hour, but NOT the Holy Spirit or the Son?

    If they are ONE as man claims, how can you blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and not the Father or Son?

    If they are ONE as man claims, who was God while Jesus was dead for 3 days and 3 nights?

    If they are ONE as man claims, who raised Jesus from the dead?



    Tell me forum......did you know that Jesus Himself tell's us just how He, the Father and the Holy Spirit are all one?

    And did you know that not only does He explain how they are all one but also how "we", the saints of God are also all one with them?


    Well....it's right there in your bible's but most pastor's have either over looked it, had no knowledge of it, or known of it but didn't teach it.


    Again...let's not forget where ALL of our doctrine is to come from;

    2 Tim.3
    [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.



    So....do you continue to go with man's doctrine of a "Trinity" that makes no sense....or do you search God's word for the truth?


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    To those reading this thread.....have you found the ONLY place in all of God's word where Jesus tells us just how He, The Father and the Holy Spirit, (3) separate entities, are all one?

    I pray you find it worth searching for. For once you learn the truth, you will be suprised with all of the other false 'doctrine' you have been fed!


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    So forum...let's read the ONLY place in all of God's word that explains just how the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all one. (I bet your pastor's never read or explained this to you!)

    Let's read John 17 to try to find answers as to how the Father is 'one' with the Son!

    John.17
    [1] These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
    [5] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
    [11] And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.


    So the Son is ONE with the Father AND all those that the Father has given the Son are ALSO ONE! So we too are ONE with God! But how?
     
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    Come on Israel.....let's learn how God and not 'Man' says The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit are all 'ONE'......


    Let's go back to John 17 for the answer......


    Jesus already told us that not only is He and the Father one, but also those that the Father gave to Jesus are one in the same way that they are one. So already we know there's more that just The Father, Son and Holy Spirit that are one. Let's read it again;

    John 17
    [11] And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

    Now we just have to find out HOW They AND those that were given to Jesus are all 'ONE'. Let's read.....


    John 17
    [17] Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
    [18] As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
    [19] And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.


    So the ones that God sent to Jesus are separated, or sanctified, by His word, the Holy scriptures. Let's read who else is sanctified by the word's of God and made ONE with God;


    John 17
    [20] Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
    [21] That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


    So now we read that EVERYONE that believes in the word/scriptures and brings the SAME message are ONE, just as the Father and the Son are ONE!


    And how are They one? Because The Son only brings what The Father gives to Him. Now let's read who brings the message of God;


    John.14
    [16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
    [26] But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    John.15
    [26] But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

    John.16
    [13] Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.


    So the Comforter, also called the Spirit of Truth and the Holy Ghost, or Holy Spirit, brings ONLY what was given to him. So if the Holy Spirit/Comforter/Holy Ghost/Spirit of Truth brings the same message, he too is ONE with everyone that does the same.


    Let's read an example of this from the scriptures;


    Rev.1
    [1] The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:


    So we have God the Father giving a revelation to God the Son; Jesus Christ.

    This revelation was to be given to their servant; John, by an Holy angel or Spirit!. Let's continue....



    So ALL of them are ONE; God the Father, God the Son, the Holy Spirit that gave the message to John AND John himself for writing down ALL that the Holy Spirit revealed to him!

    And HOW are they all 'ONE'?

    They are all one because they ALL bring the same message from God the Father.


    Now that we know just how The Father, The Son and the Holy Ghost AND all that bring the same message are 'ONE', let's read the scriptures that 'man' has tried to turn into the doctrine of 'the trinity';


    John 10
    [30] I and my Father are one.


    1 John 5
    [7] For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.


    These scriptures do NOT say that all (3) form into one, or that the Father is from one dispensation and the Son and the Holy Spirit from another. Nor does it mention anything about them being of the same substance or any nonsense like that. Nor is it a "Mystery" of faith!


    The scriptures simply means that EACH one of them, ALL (3) separate entities, have and bring the SAME message.


    And this we know because we have just read it from the ONLY place in all of God's word that explains it; John 17.


    No 'Mystery of Faith'! No doctrine of the 'trinity'!


    Just Scriptures! The thing your shepheards SHOULD have been teaching you!


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