Black Christians : House of Tumbling Sticks and Submersion

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  1. medusanegrita

    medusanegrita Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Got a two part question...

    First part -

    What do you define as a Christian?

    I know people (the spouse for one) that never attend church, reads bible only occasionally (opens it up and reads less than 10 times a year) but claim they are Christian because believe in Jesus and accept him as a lord and savior.

    Others say you aren't Christian unless you been baptised.

    And still others believe you have to receive the holy ghost... which I think includes dancing around in a trance and speaking in tongues.

    And others believe ritual and practice is highly regarded as Christian, and you aren't practicing Christianity through ritual (such as church going and communion), then lack the tenets and faith to be a Christian.

    Some people claim that certain religions aren't Christians - like Catholics & JW's... but Catholics and JW's accept other Christian denominations as Christian.

    I am asking for your personal opinion, not the 'they are a christian if they feel and think they are a Christian' - unless you truly feel that. That means you don't have to do or say anything to be a Christian but claim it.


    2nd question... What gives you the strength to adhere to your faith under scrutiny? Many people resist acute scrutiny of their faith because it produces doubt in their mind, and that threatens to upset their mental state. I think some must have something to hold onto religious and spiritual wise, and Christianity is what they chose.

    Have you ever had or developed doubt about your religion from the intense scrutiny of it or over things you find to be out of sync (with regards to your holy book or how people act and react while claiming to be Christians). So how do maintain, stay strong, and grow in your religious faith, especially if you have developed doubts? What part of the religion has been the most helpful in keeping you focused and staying apart of it?

    If you use scripture, please explain how that particular passage has provided strength in staying in your faith, sticking with it, and staying focused on it.


    ETA: I wasn't sure if this question should be here or in general spirituality. I put it here because this question was directed to Christians in particular,
    but after reading the subtitle of this subforum, it may be in the wrong place. Feel free to remove to the appropriate forum.
     
  2. Ikoro

    Ikoro Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    Tough one. I like it. I will be keeping an eye on this.

    Might one ask what urged to raise the topic in this way?

    One,

    - Ikoro
     
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    An excellent question Ikoro.

     
  4. medusanegrita

    medusanegrita Well-Known Member MEMBER

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    I was perusing the entire forum when I saw thread started by CherryBlossom a year ago entitled 'Any Christians in the House?.'

    I have a low regard for Christianity but a higher regard for her enough to read all or most things she posts when I see her name, so I ventured into the thread.

    I skimmed the entire thread, which led into other threads where Destee had to reprimand folks on their divisive behavior regarding their differences in religion and spiritual beliefs - especially with regards to non-Christians highly skewed perceptions and criticism of the Christian faith, including two threads titled 'You Know You're a Christian Fundamentalist (or Pagan Zealot) if.....'
    In those two thread, some former Christians made mentioned of being turned away from Christianity under the scrutiny and questions of their faith. When they couldn't stand up to the scrutiny and questions, they realize how little sense their religion made.

    I also saw the informal experiment where Cherry apparently made Christians references into non-Christian subforums, and it was very unwelcomed. I knew that would be the case but she was trying to prove her point - why come into a Christian-based subforum and denounce Christianity and Christians, when you would not allow that in yours? She seems very committed in her faith regardless of what others say about it or what she is presented with. So that kinda led to question #2.

    Now I personally think there is overwhelming evidence that says Christianity and it's holy book, the bible, is not in sync with what it says and what people decide to do. But I grew up with Christians, got married under the Christian faith, and most or all of my family would claim the Christians domination even tho NONE of them do any practice or ritual of Christianity. They have a bible around but I doubt these family members even read it. They just would never claim anything else, probably don't even know if anything else exist outside of Christianity. Somewhere down the line, they learned of faith called Christianity, and that what they decided to go with. They seem to be Christians in name only. That led to question #1.
     
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    Sister medusanegrita,

    Much regret these questions were not answered before your unfortunate departure. But for the record and maybe for you, succinctly put, anyone found to believe that Jesus/Yashua is the son of God and died for our sins can be classified as a Christian; and consequently its that same belief that affords the Christian to stand firm under scrutiny.

     
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    Well said, Bro. Clyde! :toast:



    Hebrews 11:
    [6] But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
     
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    .......Well, thank you sister cherryblossom, glad you liked it:)...And the Hebrew text you cited says it all, for real...Peace In my sister friend.


     
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