Black Spirituality Religion : Holy Wars

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  1. Fine1952

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    Knowing that the word "holy" defines as female opening gives one a clearer perspective as to the true meaning behind the concept "War of the Sexes".

    You see, the first wars (combats, conflicts) were staged again black African women: since it was they who held the monopoly on spirituality via none other than the GODDESS.

    Gender wars were the bain of the Greeks, Persians, Black Hebrew Patriarchs and Romans existence -- to say the least. Regionally they were Europeans, hence the conclusion that these long forgotten and mostly erased/concealed wars were thus Europe vs. Black African Women.

    They hated these Black African Amazon women who fiercely fought to protect the GODDESS (eg. Mother-Right) and the matriarchal system more than life itself.

    G. R. Taylor observed: "...The first step in the
    limitation of the status of women was to take over
    from them the monopoly of their religious function..."
    -- "When God Was A Woman" by Merlin Stone, page 150

    Much, much later, when the bloody massacres ---spear/headed by "Fathers of the Church -- escalated, Christianity would (eg. like the so-Called Jews) vicariously legitimize itself by replacing these horrific African persecutions into christian persecutions and even make bold alternations by inserting the concept of a savior-like person to over shadow the fact that it is self salvation that will inevitably set you free -- not some YT man or his son/sun in the sky.

    The transfer from female to male was huge:

    1...The collaborative/collusive replacement from the GODDESS to the God

    2...The physical replacement of temples and shrines to christian churches, mosques and synagogues

    3...The written replacement of references to She, Her, female, women, feminine -- to He, Him, men, male and masculine


    "...The Christians, centuries later revised this history and proclaimed themselves as being the ones persecuted. However, the evidence reveals otherwise..." -- "The Sibyls" by Vivian Hunter-Hindrew, page 88,

    "...However, they (eg. refers to Papal system, my insert) do not answer why the jews altered the prophecies of the Sibyls made from their Omphae temple in Palestine, just to assure the hegemony of their fire god Yahweh/Jehovah," over the Christian "Jesus"..." -- "The Sibyls" by Vivian Hunter-Hindrew, page 88.

    "...Nonetheless, though the Jews and Christians were feuding rivals, it was in both their interest to suppress the prophetic power, influence and worship of the Divine African Mother..." -- "The Sibyls" by Vivian Hunter-Hindrew, page 90.

    As these well-documented excerpts reveal -- the job was not thorough.

    In summary, it seems it is European males who have always had a problem with Black African females -- while battling with their inner castration issues in relation to the real power of Black African females. Those black males who follow the lead of European males are, too -- apart of the problem rather than the solution....!

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    - the 'bible' claims mary as wholly and un-touched and chosen by 'god' to carry his 'spirit', yet, made no room to truly celebrate her (even a surah in the qu'ran is dedicated to her) in their own scriptures? And no one even questions why this is, or is not?
     
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    There is no coincidence that the current fullscale attack on Black women is aligned with some power of significance that we ourselves are not, for the most part, conscious of. However, it would be interesting to find out how, or why, the Goddess was unable (or unwilling) to protect her daughters. Knowing this would help us to avoid future mistakes. Any ideas?
     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    ........Welcome back Fine1952...I see you are posting in rare form once again; certainly glad the above shoe doesn't fit me.

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    I don't buy any of the allegory "according to the word of man" (eg. biblical text, koran, quran).

    What does your response have to do with the Black African Amazon Women who protected the Mother Right of the GODDESS!

     
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    It has to do with the fact that the black woman has purposely been neglected by 'man' as a way of trying to reduce her power, if you will. In your opening statement you defined 'holy', so all i did was take that word and it's meaning and applied it to Mary of the bible to show how she, or her role in supposedly giving birth to the 'son of god' was also reduced.

    Mary would have also been considered a goddess or a Divine African Mother since she was 'holy', correct?

     
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    The question of the GODDESS being unable/unwilling to protect her daughters during that point in time is moot -- since future daughters arose to circumvent the devastating loss of the Mighty Amazon Women who had originally been there to protect the "Mother Right".

    Therefore, this moot point will not help "us" to avoid future mistakes unless you or some other brilliant person has a plan to change or reverse world Patriarchy back to its original state of Matriarchy. Patriarchy will never yield or reverse to this former state, I'd bet money on that!

    Unlike the current Patriarchal paradox which lives for war, poverty, famine and world domination, the world of Matriarchy paints a different image:

    page 24, "The Once and Future Goddess" by Elinor G. Gadon
    "...Perhaps the most provocative discovery of recent archaeological research is that nowhere in Neolithic Goddess culture is there any sign of warfare. There is no evidence of fortification, of violent death, invasion, or conquest. We can only conclude that there was some direct relation between Goddess religion and peaceful coexistence. Neolithic Goddess culture was woman-centered, peaceful, prosperous, and nonhierarchical..."

    Well documented research will tell you that its was thru violent death, invasion, conquest and fortification that the shift from peaceful Matriarchy to violent Patriarchy occurred -- in the first place, Blaklioness!

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    Ok....I'm not sure what to make of your tone here, so I'll explain my view again. The question of what happened to the Great Mother and her daughters is NOT irrelevant. Remind me again what your signature references about knowing your history?? This is my point in asking this question. If we understand the Goddess was first, then NO power that came after her---that she birthed---should have been able to usurp her. This means she should have been able to protect her daughters regardless. Admittedly, there are gaps in my information, so I'm going on common sense and intuition here. Since you know, you will have to fill me in on what's lacking in my understanding. The only conceivable excuse for not guarding your children when you are THE ONE is if those children were hardheaded from the get and refused to listen. Otherwise, there seems to be something missing in this story. What is that? The goody goodiness is wonderful unless you are unable to flip the script to protect yourself when necessary; if the Goddess was unable to do that, ultimately, what does that mean? This information IS important if we are to "analyze the present and plan for the future." If She were to return to her full glory today, how would she have evolved over the course of these many millenia so that her power and dignity will remain in tact?

     
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    In the Spirit of Sankofa,

    .......Forgive me for splitting this conversation, but I must make comment on what appears to be a contradiction, in my view.

    When something is circumvented, it means getting around the problem causing it to no longer exist or finding a solution; yet, there seems to be a need to plan reversal of the problem already circumvented.

    Perhaps if you would elaborate more on the future daughters that arose, I would have a better understanding of the apparent contradiction needing a future plan to avoid mistakes; coupled with the fact that the problem will not cease being a problem.

    Help me understand.

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